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I wouldn't rush this feud too soon, Bray needs to be built as the next Top Heel on Raw and feeding him to Seth isn't the way to go, Victories over Miz, Braun, Rey, Ricochet to start would slowly build him towards a more unbeatable kind of reputation to show he isn't like your Heel flavor of the month.

When he becomes champion for a second time it should be the best they have had with a Villain at the Top, Not some old transitional reign.

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Re: Seth Rollins vs. The Fiend potential feud

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I wouldn't rush this feud too soon, Bray needs to be built as the next Top Heel on Raw and feeding him to Seth isn't the way to go, Victories over Miz, Braun, Rey, Ricochet to start would slowly build him towards a more unbeatable kind of reputation to show he isn't like your Heel flavor of the month.
The problem is, if you feud him with people like Miz, Rey and Ricochet, he'll just get the reputation as a midcarder, not as "unbeatable". Ricochet is the same level as Balor and Rey and Miz are even lower. The only guy of the four you mention who could be considered a credible challenger to him is Braun, and Braun is a lower card guy who hasn't done anything in ages too.

There's nobody on Raw to feud with. He's gonna have to start beating some big name babyfaces like Roman, Undertaker, Goldberg, even Brock who granted isn't a babyface but can face anybody. It has to be that way because otherwise you're just holding him in place. I mean, what, he's gonna beat Balor and then he's gonna fight Rey Mysterio and people are honestly gonna be thinking "Oh, I wonder what'll happen here". No, Rey has lost multiple times to Samoa Joe in like a minute. Ricochet's a midcarder, Miz never wins, etc.




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I wouldn't rush this feud too soon, Bray needs to be built as the next Top Heel on Raw and feeding him to Seth isn't the way to go, Victories over Miz, Braun, Rey, Ricochet to start would slowly build him towards a more unbeatable kind of reputation to show he isn't like your Heel flavor of the month.
The problem is, if you feud him with people like Miz, Rey and Ricochet, he'll just get the reputation as a midcarder, not as "unbeatable". Ricochet is the same level as Balor and Rey and Miz are even lower. The only guy of the four you mention who could be considered a credible challenger to him is Braun, and Braun is a lower card guy who hasn't done anything in ages too.

There's nobody on Raw to feud with. He's gonna have to start beating some big name babyfaces like Roman, Undertaker, Goldberg, even Brock who granted isn't a babyface but can face anybody. It has to be that way because otherwise you're just holding him in place. I mean, what, he's gonna beat Balor and then he's gonna fight Rey Mysterio and people are honestly gonna be thinking "Oh, I wonder what'll happen here". No, Rey has lost multiple times to Samoa Joe in like a minute. Ricochet's a midcarder, Miz never wins, etc.
I said 'Victories' he should be eating guys like Miz, Rey, Rico alive just to build his reputation as an unstoppable monster then moving into a short feud with Braun would help cement him as Seth's biggest threat.

He's not getting Brock, Taker, Goldberg anytime soon which is not necessarily impossible but it's reaching, Roman right now would have me believe he's ripe to do the job to The Fiend if they wanted to bump Roman down the pecking order in favor of the guy who successfully defeated Brock Lesnar twice but that notion is laughable because Vince is Vince.

The next big match should be Demon Balor only if Bray actually beats him and they stick to booking him as such, He psychologically fucked Balor at SS which is another trait that needs to be emphasized consistently as well.

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post #74 of 93 (permalink) Old 08-12-2019, 12:25 PM
 
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Way too early for this feud. Thats a WM caliber match and it doesnt make sense for either guy to lose right now. Bray is obviously white hot and they just had Seth beat Brock clean. You're not doing that to just turn around and have him lose. I bet they are kept away from each other for a while. And do we know what brand Bray will be on once they phase out the wildcard in October?

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I don't think I want to see a 20 minute Seth vs the Fiend match. I'm curious to see how they handle the actual wrestling aspect of the Fiend. I can't imagine everyone is lying down in 5 minutes like Finn. One idea is that he sometimes transitions mid-match into the fiend with the lights going out.
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The negativity here is depressing. Instead of feeling pleased that Brayís return went so well, or excited about the prospect of his new character continuing to do well, you immediately start focusing on the negative, and all the worst case scenarios. You canít be happy even for a moment, can you? Bunch of fucking bitches, man.
Says the person who is coming on a thread to whine about somebody else "supposedly" complaining. It wasn't even meant to be a negative thread, it was a wisecrack response to how bullshit that Main Event was. I'm still interested in Bray Character's but I'm keeping my expectations low.

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Why do some of you even bother watching, honestly? You complain when you don't get what you want. Then when you do get what you want, rather than simply trying to enjoy it, you complain about some future time where you might no longer get what you want. And of course, even if that doesn't happen, you'll no longer want what you previously wanted and so will complain still.

Bizarre.
It was a joke response to that Lesnar/Seth main event. Nothing more, nothing less.

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Oh yes please put Wyatt in a feud with Seth now! So Seth can kill that jobber and send him back down the card with this stupid character.
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Undertaker and Kane at least. Granted, I know you'll say Kane is a Vince guy, but.....not in any meaningful sense. Kane was just a midcard guy his whole career, a lot like Bray. Only difference being of course, Kane didn't have the skills or the creativity to sustain a main event push whereas Bray very, very much does, and yet, for some reason, he still can't get one.

I'm sure there's plenty of others that are out there who haven't been world champions, though.

They're not dropping shit on this gimmick, either. This is pocket change to them. This isn't a serious investment.



Forget face of the company. It took him 4 years to win the world title, it only happened by accident, and he only held it for a month, and along the way he lost every major feud. That's not being a Vince guy. Vince guys don't go 0-3 at WrestleMania. And Vince guys CERTAINLY do not get booked so badly they have to take a YEAR off so that people forget how bad they've been booked. You think Roman Reigns is ever gonna take a year off to make people forget about how bad his booking has been? HA!



Doesn't matter if he's the most talked about part of SummerSlam because Vince isn't the fans.

Ok, let me ask you this then.

If he's not the champion, and he's not going to be the champion, why does it MATTER if Vince is "into him"? Let's suppose your faulty premise is true that Vince is so high on Bray Wyatt. Unless it results in the world championship, #1 he's not high ENOUGH on him, and #2, the extent he does like him doesn't amount to shit.

Also, let me remind you that this match was put in the death spot. That's when you have what's called a "buffer match" placed in between the two main events, in order to bring the crowd down so they'll have energy for the main event. This is a match that's considered unimportant, to make people save their energy. That's what Vince thinks of Bray Wyatt. He tried to cool his return off immediately. It didn't work, and Vince won't be happy about the reception Bray got, which made him a bigger star than everyone else on the show except for maybe Kevin Owens, but that was the intention. That is a pretty damning sign right off the bat. As if facing Balor in his first program wasn't enough. Balor is taking time off and Bray didn't even get to hurt him.
Kane never wanted to be champion, his last reign was practically forced on him. Even then he didn't get three gimmicks, he's always been Kane. If WWE doesn't care about the money they spend on these wrestlers didn't why aren't more of them repackaged like this?

Things happen in the WWE all the time by mistake. Dude won a world title going cleanly over Cena and AJ Styles. I repeat Cena who was still the face at the time.

There's more to wrestling than being champion. Plenty of wrestlers who are remembered never became champion.

Cooldown spot after that awesome Kofi Randy match with the wonky ending? Even you're pushing there. It was put near the end where it would be more memorable.
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I don't think Bray with this incarnation needs titles. It wouldn't make sense for the character. Why would a crazy supernatural clown give a shit about a belt? It would kind of ruin it honestly.



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Way too early for this feud. Thats a WM caliber match and it doesnt make sense for either guy to lose right now. Bray is obviously white hot and they just had Seth beat Brock clean. You're not doing that to just turn around and have him lose. I bet they are kept away from each other for a while. And do we know what brand Bray will be on once they phase out the wildcard in October?
His new render is up as a RAW member. It's the firefly funhouse bray that is in the render.
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