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If he negotiated for limited dates why is he not working limited dates? At what point does personal responsibility come in to play? You make it sound like he was perfectly happy working the indies, dodging WWE, and then somehow they forced him to re-sign. He chose to take the money and whenever WWE calls and tells him to work more dates than he's supposed to, he chooses to show up instead of telling Vince "no".

Rey is not a victim here.
WWE didnít give it to him? Why are you acting like thatís difficult to understand? He signed for two years because thatís all he could do, Christ. Like I said two years vs five years of full-time work is STILL full-time work. Clearly the definition of ďcompensation is being lost in this discussion. Yes Rey took the money, thinking he could do the two years and get out again and he probably regrets. WWE didnít grant his request for limited dates knowing full well his health status and past injuries (under their employ I might add) and didnít give a fuck to get the best out of him with what he could currently do. Both parties are at fault, but WWE with the knowledge on Reyís health that they had could have and should have done better. Sorry you disagree about something simple like wrestler health oh well.
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WWE didnít give it to him? Why are you acting like thatís difficult to understand? He signed for two years because thatís all he could do, Christ. Like I said two years vs five years of full-time work is STILL full-time work. Clearly the definition of ďcompensation is being lost in this discussion. Yes Rey took the money, thinking he could do the two years and get out again and he probably regrets. WWE didnít grant his request for limited dates knowing full well his health status and past injuries (under their employ I might add) and didnít give a fuck to get the best out of him with what he could currently do. Both parties are at fault, but WWE with the knowledge on Reyís health that they had could have and should have done better. Sorry you disagree about something simple like wrestler health oh well.
Because he said if they were negotiated, why weren't they given. Negotiated means they would be in his contract. He wouldn't be contractually obligated to do 'this amount of shows' per 'this amount of time' or however the hell their contracts are laid out. Lol @ trying to be the white knight with injuries too. Look at literally any sport/competition. Injuries are part of the business. WWE is actually better then most sports in that they'll still honor your contract if out for injury. Sorry you disagree with something as simple as common business practices.
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That's where I got mixed up I guess. I understand someone wanting something. I asked for more money then I eventually settled on with my firm I'm at right now. Life is all about negotiation. I don't think Rey is a piece of shit at all! I don't know the guy. Just because I don't like him as a wrestler doesn't mean he is a piece of shit. He just signed a contract. If he didn't want to work all these days, and negotiation went nowhere, he should have done a lighter schedule on the indies to preserve his body and longetivity. I just can't have sympathy when guys sign a WWE contract knowing fully well how this company operates.
Look man, I get where youíre mostly coming from and Iím the first person to laugh at people who sign with WWE expecting better roles outside of the money. But the fact remains that when it comes to part-timers like Rey they shouldnít be doing full time work I donít care if the deal was for a year, especially when they have a history of injuries. If thereís two things you should do in this situation you donít give them titles and you donít give them a full calendar year schedule thatís bullshit to them and the younger, healthier guys under contract. At least thatís my opinion.
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Look man, I get where youíre mostly coming from and Iím the first person to laugh at people who sign with WWE expecting better roles outside of the money. But the fact remains that when it comes to part-timers like Rey they shouldnít be doing full time work I donít care if the deal was for a year, especially when they have a history of injuries. If thereís two things you should do in this situation you donít give them titles and you donít give them a full calendar year schedule thatís bullshit to them and the younger, healthier guys under contract. At least thatís my opinion.
The ONLY thing I found about limited dates for Rey was Meltzer saying what the 'WWE should do'. It sucks he got hurt, but the dude has always been a walking injury waiting to happen. Giving him a title was stupid and I don't understand that move still. Meltzer commented that WWE should use him sparingly. I don't know if Rey has been used on house shows in shit but what little I read told me it was now and then in 2 minute quick finish matches. You understand the WWE is signing a contract with the devil though and that really was my main point.
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Because he said if they were negotiated, why weren't they given. Negotiated means they would be in his contract. He wouldn't be contractually obligated to do 'this amount of shows' per 'this amount of time' or however the hell their contracts are laid out. Lol @ trying to be the white knight with injuries too. Look at literally any sport/competition. Injuries are part of the business. WWE is actually better then most sports in that they'll still honor your contract if out for injury. Sorry you disagree with something as simple as common business practices.
Endangering worker health is common business practices in most sports? Last time, I checked the NBA, NFL, etc don’t have their talent work injured so that’s false.
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what in the world happened to rey's son dominic? i would love rey mysterio vs ricochet vs aj styles for the unted states championship
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Endangering worker health is common business practices in most sports? Last time, I checked the NBA, NFL, etc so thatís false.
How is anyone endangered? WWE has protocol needed to pass in order to compete. They're notoriously overprotective with injuries! Rey is a small, fragile, old man. Shit happens.
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Re: Thoughts on REY getting squashed?

Haven't watched in a while but I remember Michael Cole billing Rey as the greatest high flyer of all time. If that's how they really feel and if they REALLY wanted 205 live to be taken seriously, they should've sent Rey down there to help build some prestige with the show.

Who gives a damn of drew gulak and Tony neese practically kill each other in the ring if no one knows who they are? They should be sending names down there to make that title mean something.

OT: it really doesn't bother me if lashley destroyed Rey. Bobby should be steam rolling a lot of guys if he's gonna be around fill time
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Re: Thoughts on REY getting squashed?

Honestly, both WWE and Rey are at fault here imo. WWE for knowing his injury history and still having him work more dates than he should, and on Rey for knowing full well what he was getting into when he re-signed. Rey had a good thing going on the indies tbh, should've just stayed there.
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Re: Thoughts on REY getting squashed?

He's a legend who can still go but face facts, he gets injured all the time. You can't commit to a long term storyline with him.

They should transition him into a Titus O'Neil type role where he wrestles occasionally but is mostly a stable manager and overall brand ambassador.

A stable with Rey, Andrade and Zelina and a tag team would be great

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