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All Raw TV Ratings, Buys, Attendance, Draw Talk Here - THE RATINGS STUFF PART VII - NUMBERZ

**All TV Ratings, Buys, Draw Talk Here**

Previous thread HERE : https://www.wrestlingforum.com/raw/...talk-here-ratings-war-part-vi-lolratings.html

NEW THREAD PEEPS!!!

It's the ratings thread, that thing that WWE apparently doesn't give a shit about, yeah (right)?

The next chapter in the ongoing saga that is the numbers game. Where numbers and decimal points gets analysed to the tenth degree and the dreaded 'Draw' phrase gets bought up and people get their handbags out and have a 'discussion' over a bunch of numbers about their favourites and how they draw and when they don't draw it's because nobody is a draw.

Even people who don't watch are enamored by dem numbers. It's all about the bloody numberz.

NUMBERZ. NUMBERZ. NUMBERZ.

THE RATINGS WAR PART VII

 
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#161 · (Edited)
Re: So why isn't Bray "RATINGZ" Wyatt the Universal Champion?

Didn't they try putting the WWE Title on him a couple years ago? It flopped.

I'm sure it would flop again, because you know, it's WWE.
It didn't flop, it wasn't even given a chance. They decided when he won it it was only for a month, because Orton was given a title reign at WrestleMania so he wouldn't sue Vince for Vince ordering Lesnar to bust him open hard way which gave him a concussion. He could've taken them to court and won easily, so they gave him a WrestleMania push and Bray was a fall guy. And they deliberately made it as bad as they possibly could, like when they put maggots on the mat, and when they did a match in a haunted house, just so people wanted Bray gone from the main event and it wouldn't get him even more over, because they didn't want a groundswell.

There has never been a serious attempt to push Bray Wyatt, outside of when he was getting built up to be fed to John Cena, and that was the absolute best and stablest the WWE product has been in years.

So, the answer to the question? Because Vince is dumb. He doesn't like fat guys, he doesn't like charismatic guys, he doesn't like guys who can talk. Bray Wyatt is everything as a performer that he's against. He's never going to get a fair shake in this company. It's a miracle he's not Japanese like Asuka and is fluent in English or he'd have been fired by now, I have no doubt.

He should absolutely be beating Brock at SummerSlam. WWE doesn't know how to ride the hot hand. At all.
 
#173 ·
Re: So why isn't Bray "RATINGZ" Wyatt the Universal Champion?

I don't really see it.

He looks like some Insane Clown Posse reject.

The way I see it, that gimmick will do nothing for ratings or get casuals to watch. If anything it will make people think wrestling is cornier than it already is.

Not trying to be negative because I do like Bray. But seriously? What do you do with this "fiend" character after the demon vs demon match? What is he going to do that we haven't seen a million times already with other "demonic" characters?

The only way I see this character working out is if he starts a faction again, because honestly that's the only way this character stays interesting or draws any ratings.
 
#192 ·
Wyatt in his current gimmick may be popping the ratings slightly but I suspect it’s only because it’s something new or different. However, something new or different doesn’t necessarily mean it’s good.

Maybe I’m wrong here and I’m sure anyone who was there live will tell me their side, but based on a video recording from the crowd that I saw on YouTube, Wyatt’s reaction was very lacklustre especially considering they’d be building up his return for so many weeks.

I expect him in this “Fiend” gimmick to fail spectacularly when he restarts his feud with Balor. It’s just going to be the same old boring empty threats Wyatt doing corny spooky shit but this time with a stupid Halloween mask on.

Boring!
 
#201 · (Edited)
If this wasn't the "all indy, small wrestlers suck/vanilla midge" guy maybe I would trust source more.

Let him come on here and present detailed chart of every show in detail and where he got attendance figure from (I know he posts here) . Even he admits it's an estimate and Meltzers haven't been great lately

Are those numbers paid just or total in building because again Meltzer and a few others are mixing up two recently. What was price of ticket etc
 
#207 ·
Re: So why isn't Bray "RATINGZ" Wyatt the Universal Champion?

bcos wwe gonna wwe. lexi could be facing becky for the most anticipated women's match in history but wwe creative is intent on making their product boring so went with natalya.
 
#210 ·
Re: Jinder was a more profitable champion than Rollins

I preferred Seth a hell of a lot more when he was in the mid-card. His entire run as UV Champion has been nothing but a bore, and it certainly sent it into a spiral when they got Becky involved and formed 'The Men Power Couple' that they got going on.

His entire reign feels like he's only been feuding with Baron Corbin, I can't think of anyone else other than AJ Styles that he defended his title against. It's been that forgettable. I'm actually happy that Lesnar took the title off of him.
 
#211 ·
Re: Jinder was a more profitable champion than Rollins

Mah boy Roman selling dem tickets; THE BIG DAWG IS ALSO THE BIG DRAW, "he was never over" fuck that shit, you smarks and neckbeards can :phillip3 now.

You can swallow your shitty tastes and bow to the megadraw. :reigns2



Ok that was fun, but seriously some of these numbers seem pretty random, who is going to believe Swagger and The Miz were really that profilable by themselves?
 
#213 ·
House shows is less specifically who's champion and who is most extensively featured. When Brock held the title for a year or more, it was Roman who was most advertised in these shows. During Jinder's reign there was still Cena for parts of it to help prop up numbers.

On the RAW brand there isn't anyone on Cena level, let alone Roman for that matter. It's Becky, Seth, AJ and maybe Mysterio bringing up the rear. AJ missed time due to injuries so it's Becky and Seth who would be the backbone of those house show ads
 
#214 ·
Smackdown is a way weaker brand than Raw, this is fairly significant. Doesn't really surprise me tbh, Seth Rollins is an awful pro wrestler. Jinder was far from perfect, but played the heel well, looked like a million bucks, was a decent promo, and while his work wasn't amazing, he was actually working, which by default makes him a better worker than Seth Rollins and his bullshit video game matches. Also consider that Seth has had favorable booking for 6-7 years and Jinder had the belt thrown on him cold with the stigma of being a jobber before he won the belt and it makes this even more embarrassing.
 
#218 ·
Kofi isn't amazing or anything, but he was kinda sorta hot and they botched it. The New Day gimmick and throwing pancakes and stupid shit like that isn't a main event gimmick. They should have slow burned a Big E heel turn, that way they could have gotten the New Day gimmick off of Kofi and had a possibly hot program in Kofi and Big E. But this is the WWE and they don't know what the fuck they're doing anymore. Again, I'm not a fan of Kofi, he's a lot better than Seth or Becky but he's still not a main eventer in my eyes, but they did seem to have something that they could have maybe ran with in the short term and they screwed it up. The only right thing they've done with his Title run is his strong booking, World Champs should be booked strong and he has been, it's helped get the career midcard stigma off of him a little bit, but with his silly gimmick and them doing everything else wrong it ultimately doesn't matter, he's damaged goods already.
 
#222 ·
They both shouldn't be champion. The numbers for hour 1 of last week (when it was pretty much a given that Brock/Heyman would be out to gloat about the title win) were the lowest rated of the whole show. That NEVER happens.

I guarantee you a solid portion of WWE's fanbase saw Brock win the belt and knew they'd be in for months of having no champion on the show. They've seen this bullshit for several years now. It's not enticing to watch Brock show up once every two months and bounce around/smile in the ring while Heyman cuts the same fucking promo he has done for what seems like 5 years now.

Rollins was failing hard as champion, I don't think anyone can really debate that.

Corbin or Braun should've gotten the belt. I doubt numbers would've gone up, but at least there would be interest
 
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