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Re: All Raw TV Ratings, Buys, Attendance, Draw Talk Here - THE RATINGS STUFF PART VII - NUMBERZ

This number is nothing special at all. It's down 18% on the previous year. If you combine that with the 3% year on year drop last week, that works out at around a 10.5-11% year on year drop over the two weeks. The reason why this week' number is down 18% compared to 3% last week is because this week's episode is compared to the post-Summerslam show last year.

Last year, RAW also only lost 200k viewers from the night after Summerslam to the next week's show. They drew 3.092 million the night after Summerslam, and then 2.877 million the next week. So it's almost the exact same drop off. Only percentage-wise, slightly more of the audience was retained this year than last year.
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That's shocking
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I thought it would do a worse rating judging by the Raw thread on this site. Only 79 pages. They'll be under 2mils during NFL season, and nobody is going to watch NXT. it'll be as bad as 205 live was.
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This number is nothing special at all. It's down 18% on the previous year. If you combine that with the 3% year on year drop last week, that works out at around a 10.5-11% year on year drop over the two weeks. The reason why this week' number is down 18% compared to 3% last week is because this week's episode is compared to the post-Summerslam show last year.

Last year, RAW also only lost 200k viewers from the night after Summerslam to the next week's show. They drew 3.092 million the night after Summerslam, and then 2.877 million the next week. So it's almost the exact same drop off. Only percentage-wise, slightly more of the audience was retained this year than last year.
Which basically means they are on the same trajectory they were on a year ago. Which means next yearís post SummerSlam show will do 2.4MM, then the next week 2.2MM, and then they will be closing in on 1.5MM as the year wears on (if they donít break the trend).
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Re: All Raw TV Ratings, Buys, Attendance, Draw Talk Here - THE RATINGS STUFF PART VII - NUMBERZ

These ratings are not great. Down 200k from last week pretty much following last years post Summerslam Raws. Sadly I think this week was actually a little bit better than last week (not by much).
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Smackdown has been retaining viewers year on year better than RAW in recent weeks.

- Smackdown's average year on year drop is around 6.5-7% over the past 2 weeks.

- RAW's average year on year drop is around 10.5-11% over the past 2 weeks.
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Re: All Raw TV Ratings, Buys, Attendance, Draw Talk Here - THE RATINGS STUFF PART VII - NUMBERZ

Gonna start posting attendance numbers, these are straight from the observer(Meltzer gets them from the venues)

8/16 Bismark ND (WWE Raw Live Event - 2,000)

8/17 Houston, TX (WWE Super Show Live Event - 5,600)

8/17 Grand Forks, ND (WWE Raw Live Event - 2,000)

8/19 St. Paul, MN (WWE Raw/Main Event TV tapings - 6,000)

8/20 Sioux Falls, SD (WWE Smackdown/205 Live TV tapings - 3,000)

EDIT: Missed a show, 8/18 Omaha, NE (WWE Smackdown Live Event - 1,200)

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Gonna start posting attendance numbers, these are straight from the observer(Meltzer gets them from the venues)

8/16 Bismark ND (WWE Raw Live Event - 2,000)

8/17 Houston, TX (WWE Super Show Live Event - 5,600)

8/17 Grand Forks, ND (WWE Raw Live Event - 2,000)

8/19 St. Paul, MN (WWE Raw/Main Event TV tapings - 6,000)

8/20 Sioux Falls, SD (WWE Smackdown/205 Live TV tapings - 3,000)

EDIT: Missed a show, 8/18 Omaha, NE (WWE Smackdown Live Event - 1,200)
If you think about it those numbers in North Dakota are so much more impressive than the Houston number.

Also, the financials of these shows has me confused. I don't see how much money, if any, they can be making on some of these.

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Re: All Raw TV Ratings, Buys, Attendance, Draw Talk Here - THE RATINGS STUFF PART VII - NUMBERZ

How does WWE as expensive as they are, in the venues they run, make money at North and South Dakota house shows doing 1200-2000 people? If its some barely existent, brand spanking new company paying most of the wrestlers a few hundred bucks a show or a taping, yeah, I can see that. MLW would be turning cartwheels to run somewhere at 1200 people. But WWE? They are paying every mook on the roster at least 100 grand a year and they have over 9000 people to pay, and that's just the wrestlers.
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How does WWE as expensive as they are, in the venues they run, make money at North and South Dakota house shows doing 1200-2000 people? If its some barely existent, brand spanking new company paying most of the wrestlers a few hundred bucks a show or a taping, yeah, I can see that. MLW would be turning cartwheels to run somewhere at 1200 people. But WWE? They are paying every mook on the roster at least 100 grand a year and they have over 9000 people to pay, and that's just the wrestlers.
I can only assume they do it purely for exposure and cover the costs with money from elsewhere?

WWE to me seems much like the NFL say. They don't rely on fans in seats in the stadium to turn profit and run business, its all money from other means, TV, Sponsors etc. WWE seems the same now? They make money everywhere they can so their live shows can take the hit (it seems to be currently taking).

Although I'm sure nobody is pleased to see 6k fans at a Raw or Smackdown taping but that's their own fault right now.
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