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All Raw TV Ratings, Buys, Attendance, Draw Talk Here - THE RATINGS STUFF PART VII - NUMBERZ

**All TV Ratings, Buys, Draw Talk Here**

Previous thread HERE : https://www.wrestlingforum.com/raw/...talk-here-ratings-war-part-vi-lolratings.html

NEW THREAD PEEPS!!!

It's the ratings thread, that thing that WWE apparently doesn't give a shit about, yeah (right)?

The next chapter in the ongoing saga that is the numbers game. Where numbers and decimal points gets analysed to the tenth degree and the dreaded 'Draw' phrase gets bought up and people get their handbags out and have a 'discussion' over a bunch of numbers about their favourites and how they draw and when they don't draw it's because nobody is a draw.

Even people who don't watch are enamored by dem numbers. It's all about the bloody numberz.

NUMBERZ. NUMBERZ. NUMBERZ.

THE RATINGS WAR PART VII

 
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#3,440 ·
Whether their TV show is G rated or TV-14 it doesn’t matter at this point.

Their whole presentation of pro wrestling is absolutely trash. To think that it has gotten even more sports entertainment in the last few years is fucking depressing, but this is what the "wrestling should be silly and fun :D crowd asked for lol.

The fake bad comedy bs, flippy boring indy dudes who don’t even know a simple grappling move, cinematic matches etc...
 
#3,479 ·
Whether their TV show is G rated or TV-14 it doesn’t matter at this point.

Their whole presentation of pro wrestling is absolutely trash. To think that it has gotten even more sports entertainment in the last few years is fucking depressing, but this is what the "wrestling should be silly and fun :D crowd asked for lol.

The fake bad comedy bs, flippy boring indy dudes who don’t even know a simple grappling move, cinematic matches etc...
Haha, excellent post.

This is my first post or visit to this forum in 2 years and it's weird reading this thread and seeing the same old tired arguments and opinions - Vince needs to go, no good characters, need better writers etc. etc.
It's like a f'n time warp in here, I could take another 2 year break, come back and it would still be the same old nonsense.

Professional Wrestling Is Dead
It died in 1996 when the nWo made it cool to be a heel and when both Vince and Eric decided that in order to compete with each other they would book their weekly shows on the fly and do away with long term planning, heels/faces and jobber/squash matches to properly build people and make matches between established names feel special.
After an intense but short lived boom between 1997 and 2000 the business has been on an initially gradual but ever quickening descent into oblivion. The MNW/Attitude Era was the equivalent of giving a terminally ill patient an injection of adrenaline, morphine and cocaine - for a short while they'll be full of energy and feel like their old self again but they're still terminally ill.
You could write a long book about why wrestling died and where it all went wrong but it died in 1996.

What is now called wrestling is merely the reanimated corpse of a once great sport.
I've accepted it and moved on, I occasionally hope that there will be a return to the glory days of the Golden Age (1985-92) or the territories but of course that's unrealistic, delusion that can not and never will happen for so, so many reasons, some of those reasons aren't even those within the sport's fault.
So to those who still watch WWE but mostly hate it and come on here to complain - stop wasting your time and energy and move on, there are so many better ways to spend your free time.
 
#3,766 ·
You guys completely ignore the non live viewers which is now the majority. Why would anyone sit down and watch 2-3hrs of wrestling Live unless it's a special show.

You can easily record it and watch at your leisure and skip the ads. Even better for some, just go on YouTube and all the main segments is on the WWE channel. This is what younger ppl do, that is why TV demo skews old, even the 'young & hip' AEW viewership is late 40s avg.

This is why the WWE have record YouTube views and social media numbers bigger than massive brands like NFL.

The majority are just not watching the full show as there is so many options but many are following. So the company will continue to be heavily profitable even though Live TV ratings will keep dropping.

The next deal for both Raw & Smackdown would probably be exclusive rights on a streaming platform just like Peacock deal. The world is changing. We need to stop obsessing over TV rating in 2021.
 
#3,948 ·

USA Network is losing about 20% viewership per year. This would put RAW viewership at about 1.4 million for June 2022.
Quoting myself. I thought it would take one full year for viewership to get this low, I've surprised myself, as it's only been 19 days ago.
 
#4,226 ·
Hey, some folks have to find out the hard way :p
 
#4,463 · (Edited)
In all seriousness, though, I find the vast majority of stan culture to be utterly childish and embarrassing. In wrestling and in all other areas of pop culture. It's fine to enjoy the work of this wrestler or that pop artist or actor, but bragging (on their behalf?) about how much they supposedly draw is pathetic.
 
#4,464 ·
In all seriousness, though, I find the vast majority of stan culture to be utterly childish and embarrassing. In wrestling and in all other areas of pop culture. It's fine to enjoy the work of this wrestler or that pop artist or actor, but bragging (on their behalf?) about how much they supposedly draw is pathetic. Grow up, people.
Completely agree. Imagine bragging about SD doing 2 million on FOX when that is less than what SD was doing on SyFy. WHOOPS. :LOL:

Here's just a couple of examples from a simple Google search:



YIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIKES.
 
#4,714 ·
This thread the last few pages was more entertaining than WWE has been in years.
 
#4,717 ·
Man, I dunno. I find this thread a lot more entertaining when everyone's laughing at how bad the WWE is doing, not marks fighting with each other about who's a draw and who isn't.

But I guess entertainment value is highly subjective. There are people who think Raw is great right now, for example. Imagine.
 
#5,433 ·
“Most” fans care, but yet the last Smackdown episode lost 17% of the demographic numbers compared to last week, and still did worse compared to last year’s ThunderDome episode.

Let’s also ignore the fact that they crammed everything in last night’s Raw episode by trying to ‘stack’ it up with most of the crap happening on Smackdown.
 
#155 ·
So why isn't Bray "RATINGZ" Wyatt the Universal Champion?

BROOOOOCK LESNAR isn't a draw. That's it. It's done. Finished. People said put the belt on Lesnar so a star can save the show.

Low ratings for his ANNOUNCED 1st hour appearance.

Not even a TOP 5 merchandise seller (now maybe if he turned face, it'd be different)

Losing subscribers even though he's the main eventer for all the big shows.

I'm one of the biggest Brock marks on this website but he's not a draw. It's done. Move on.

So why is he champion? Bray Wyatt, for EVERY push he's had, has coincided with a ratings bump. At least for his Smackdown run.

His 2nd hour was rated higher than Brock's. And the word of mouth and social media engagement from his debut led to even higher ratings in hour 3. He literally OUTDREW Brock.

Y'all can run in this thread and bitch and moan the usual

Bray wyatT iS FAt hE alwaYs loSes I dON'T LiKE His pANTs

But the FACT is that fans are more excited for Bray right now and more likely to tune in with him as champ. Likewise Drake Maverick and R-Truth have earned PUSHES too

There needs to be a paradigm shift. This Brock vs SHIELD shit ain't it chief and after allllllll the people celebrating Brock's win like he was gonna save the company, it's clearer than ever that he's stale and that nobody gives a SHIT

Put the belt on Bray Wyatt IMMEDIATELY. Summerslam. 1-2-3 finished
 
#158 ·
BROOOOOCK LESNAR isn't a draw. That's it. It's done. Finished. People said put the belt on Lesnar so a star can save the show.

Low ratings for his ANNOUNCED 1st hour appearance.

Not even a TOP 5 merchandise seller (now maybe if he turned face, it'd be different)

Losing subscribers even though he's the main eventer for all the big shows.

I'm one of the biggest Brock marks on this website but he's not a draw. It's done. Move on.

So why is he champion? Bray Wyatt, for EVERY push he's had, has coincided with a ratings bump. At least for his Smackdown run.

His 2nd hour was rated higher than Brock's. And the word of mouth and social media engagement from his debut led to even higher ratings in hour 3. He literally OUTDREW Brock.

Y'all can run in this thread and bitch and moan the usual

Bray wyatT iS FAt hE alwaYs loSes I dON'T LiKE His pANTs

But the FACT is that fans are more excited for Bray right now and more likely to tune in with him as champ. Likewise Drake Maverick and R-Truth have earned PUSHES too

There needs to be a paradigm shift. This Brock vs SHIELD shit ain't it chief and after allllllll the people celebrating Brock's win like he was gonna save the company, it's clearer than ever that he's stale and that nobody gives a SHIT

Put the belt on Bray Wyatt IMMEDIATELY. Summerslam. 1-2-3 finished
I didn’t really see anyone saying put the belt on Brock. There was a ton of people saying Seth & Kofi were failures but the direction to go in from there ranged from Corbin, to Joe, to Bray, to Braun, etcetera. Brock was pretty much seen as having more value getting away from Seth.

With that said, I think Bray going straight to a feud with Seth for the belt would have made a lot more sense than going back to Brock. Put Brock on SD and have him win the WWE Title and feud with New Day or something.
 
#287 ·
Who are these 700K viewers who just turn out for the nostalgia trip that keeps getting sadder and sadder and the oldies keep getting older and older.

This has to be folks who watch later in the week or by other means who decided to tune in live right? Not lay fans who turned in for one special week and then ghosted again?

Also WWE did the reunion show in the middle of July because it was the last Raw before the Q2 reports and they used the ratings spike to fluff up numbers and averages. They made claim that Raw viewership was trending up in July based solely on the reunion spike.

When will they realize they need to drop the third hour, which would allow them to cut out a lot of the filler and run a much tighter 2 hour show? 3 hours scared people off from even bothering watching - even if it was a decent show.
 
#288 ·
Who are these 700K viewers who just turn out for the nostalgia trip that keeps getting sadder and sadder and the oldies keep getting older and older.

This has to be folks who watch later in the week or by other means who decided to tune in live right? Not lay fans who turned in for one special week and then ghosted again?

Also WWE did the reunion show in the middle of July because it was the last Raw before the Q2 reports and they used the ratings spike to fluff up numbers and averages. They made claim that Raw viewership was trending up in July based solely on the reunion spike.
Very good point, so we'll probably get a reunion special in mid-October too lol.
 
#476 · (Edited)
Re: Straight Up Steve Austin Ratings Jump With Becky Lynch Episode

Doesn't this show air after RAW?

Wasn't she the first wrestler he had as a guest?

A show hosted by a man whose celebrity is most associated with wrestling with a guest that is a wrestler immediately following a wrestling show that said guest is prominently featured on and was featured in the MAIN EVENT of said lead-in bumped up ratings a little SHOCKING.

But hey let's look at facts here Raw did 2.507 viewers on Monday and Austin's show did 1.097 this big draw that Becky supposedly is literally lost more than 50% of her main show's audience in less than 30 minutes(in a week where said main show she appears on also dropped in numbers) so literally huge draw like people say LOL

Imagine a show airing on USA in 1998 right after Raw with the biggest star in the company(Austin) appearing on it losing more than half the lead-in's audience? I don't think so. I don't think "draw" is the right word for Becky but I also don't think these antiquated metrics for determining who is a draw and isn't a draw are particularly important or relevant or accurate.
 
#563 · (Edited)
Even Steve Austin couldn't save Raw from Monday Night Football last night.

Raw averaged 2.13 million viewers, its second lowest modern era mark in history for a non-holiday show. The 15.4 percent drop from last week was much larger than usual for the first show against football.

The number speaks to the audience watching Raw being less loyal as compared to other years when football started.

The only episodes of Raw in modern history that did worse was a June 10 show against the NBA finals, and this past Christmas and New Year's Eve shows, which really shouldn't even count in comparison.

The most notable thing is that the Austin segment should have been held for later in the episode, as Raw opened well in the first quarter, fell once Austin left, and continued to decline the rest of the show, with the main event being one of the lowest rated matches in Raw history.

None of the stats are good. The third hour was the lowest third hour except for Christmas and New Year's. The first-to-third hour drop, largely due to Austin, was the sixth worst in history at 21.9 percent. The audience was down 22.3 percent from last year's first show against Monday Night Football.

Raw was 10th for the night on cable, trailing news shows, football related programming, and the 3.36 million viewers for A Very Brady Renovation on Home & Garden.

The Houston Texans vs. New Orleans Saints game against most of Raw did 13.08 million viewers. The late game, with the Denver Broncos vs. Oakland Raiders, did 10.62 million viewers.

As far as viewers leaving during the show, from the hour one average to hour three, the decline was 14 percent with women 18-49, 17 percent for men 18-49, 19 percent for teenage girls, six percent for teenage boys, and 24 percent over 50.

The three hours were:

8 p.m. 2.36 million viewers
9 p.m. 2.18 million viewers
10 p.m. 1.85 million viewers


https://www.f4wonline.com/wwe-news/...-percent-against-monday-night-football-292181

Additional posts by Dave about the quarterly ratings

Firefly Funhouse did badly the last two weeks in ratings.
She [Alexa] had the second lowest segment last week. Austin's segment did great, like really great.
Tl;dr

We're at another collapse. WWE better hope Austin isn't a draw anymore otherwise those ratings are only going to get worse.
 
#569 ·
Raw was 10th for the night on cable, trailing news shows, football related programming, and the 3.36 million viewers for A Very Brady Renovation on Home & Garden.

The Houston Texans vs. New Orleans Saints game against most of Raw did 13.08 million viewers. The late game, with the Denver Broncos vs. Oakland Raiders, did 10.62 million viewers.
Can someone enlighten me... what are the other 300m+ people in the US doing? Only 4% of the population is watching the football game.. I thought it was the national sport? Correct me if I'm wrong, but this game is on basic cable right, so everyone with a cable package will have it?

While with RAW, when less than 1% of the country tunes into your show... why even bother?
 
#687 ·
Re: WON: Lowest rated quarter hours last month

Y'know, I have nothing against you DC.

But my god, tone it down a bit. You asked for proof, it got delivered. Throwing a hissy fit ain't gonna change that. And you stated multiple times that you don't care about ratings and numbers. So why care in this instance? Seth has the lowest ratings. That's a fact. You can argue semantics all day, but why?
 
#696 · (Edited)
Re: WON: Lowest rated quarter hours last month

Leave it to Husky Harris to find a great gimmick, run it to death and lose fans interest in a couple of months.

The story of his career.

He was a bust as Bray Wyatt and he'll be a bust as THE FIEND. This time he's taking their top babyface down with him.

What will this so called geniuses next incaranation be and how long will that last :lol

This dude trying to do be this generations Jericho with the multiple characters however unlike Jericho they were actually successful.

Jericho as a comedy sidekick with THE LIST > any of Bray's characters. And then we have his fan boys go on here talking about tailunt and his genius. You can give a turd a different shade of paint but a turd will always remain a turd.
 
#698 ·
Re: WON: Lowest rated quarter hours last month

Leave it to Husky Harris to find a great gimmick, run it to death and lose fans interest in a couple of months.

The story of his career.

He was a bust as Bray Wyatt and he'll be a bust as THE FIEND. This time he's taking their top babyface down with him.

What will this so called genius next incaranation be and how long will that last :lol

This dude trying to do be this generations Jericho with the multiple characters however unlike Jericho they were actually successful.

Jericho as a comedy sidekick with THE LIST > any of Bray's characters. ANd then we have his fan boys go on here talking about tailunt and his genius. You can give a turd a different shade of color but a turd will always remain a turd.
:nah
 
#719 ·
Re: WON: Lowest rated quarter hours last month

Wait...so you're telling me that if you take a spot monkey with zero personality, zero ability to cut a promo, zero charisma, and ultimately nothing at all that makes him stand out and feel like a Star and try and pretend said steaming pile of monkey crap is a Star that it doesn't actually resonate with the fans. Amazing.

For whatever reason the McMahons love charisma vacuum anti-draws.
 
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