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Bro, just stop. Brock is not a big star in 2019 or long before. Saying otherwise is pure dickriding at this point. He's just a massive drain on the product with far too little returned to justify it. There is nothing that's going to change it. Nothing. Stop the dickriding.
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Bro, just stop. Brock is not a big star in 2019 or long before. Saying otherwise is pure dickriding at this point. He's just a massive drain on the product with far too little returned to justify it. There is nothing that's going to change it. Nothing. Stop the dickriding.
I donít know that anyone is saying heís a big star. He probably still would be for UFC, but heís undeniably WWEís biggest star and they need him to impress the networks. Thatís all Iím saying. Does he help the ratings? Yeah probably but itís so de minimis at this point itís no longer worth keeping score.

And hey Iím not trying to hurt your feelings or anything. Just throwing out my $0.02. Remember, itís just a wrestling forum. Nothing here is changing the world or affecting lives. If my opinion is really getting you that upset just take a break from the net for awhile and get some perspective.
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LOL Brock the ratings killer
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Brock isnít the answer. The better move would have been to have Brock squash Kofi and try to rehab the WWE Title and SD in general. But as far as Raw goes, Brock will only help very, very minimally. They damaged him too much last year (on purpose I should add). Seth was a failure but I donít think that surprised anybody. Still, I would have kept it on Seth and tried building up some new contenders that they havenít tried before. The people that talk about everything revolving around The Shield and Brock are right. Thatís been done to death and hasnít done great business anyways.
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Bro, just stop. Brock is not a big star in 2019 or long before. Saying otherwise is pure dickriding at this point. He's just a massive drain on the product with far too little returned to justify it. There is nothing that's going to change it. Nothing. Stop the dickriding.
When Hour 3 outdraws Hour 1 which had the company's biggest name in it coming off a title win from the previous night's PPV.

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Brock is a draw but he isnít a draw on Raw if that makes sense. Announcing that Brock Lesnar is going to be on Raw does absolutely nothing for viewers because the last 5 years he basically comes out, bounces around and lets Paul Heyman cut some variation of the same promo heís done the last 5 years. You get nothing from a Brock appearance. At least if The Rock shows up you get a good promo, with Brock itís nothing and the same old shit.

Having said that, Brock is still a PPV draw. He has a big fight, main event aura that no one else in the company does. His matches always feel special even though like his Raw appearances you know what to expect.
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When Hour 3 outdraws Hour 1 which had the company's biggest name in it coming off a title win from the previous night's PPV.

Not that it had anything to do with Brock (although the news of a title change spreading might have contributed), but the show building on their audience from the start instead of the opposite is actually a good thing.
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Not that it had anything to do with Brock (although the news of a title change spreading might have contributed), but the show building on their audience from the start instead of the opposite is actually a good thing.
It could be. That's not the point people in this thread have been arguing for weeks/months now.

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When Hour 3 outdraws Hour 1 which had the company's biggest name in it coming off a title win from the previous night's PPV.

Hour 2 had Bray Wyatt, it also had Carmella in a 25 minute long match. So Brock being around didn't do dick.
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It could be. That's not the point people in this thread have been arguing for weeks/months now.
A show that builds audience from the start is unquestionably part of a winning recipe. The other big part is making that starting hour better and better as you go. And sure thatís the hard part. But, you canít have every Raw be the night after a PPV and you canít have every Raw follow a title change. Monday was a gimme for them. The trick is to do it on the nights not following a PPV and / or a title change and thatís where they will fail.

At this point Brock should be an attraction, not a regular or even a semi regular. People complain that heís not around enough when the truth is heís around too much. But heís all they have so they will go back to that well over and over as long as the networks are breathing down their necks.
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