It apparently seems that Vince McMahon thinks that Brock Lesnar is a draw. Yes, he was a draw when he returned after years of being away but he’s no longer that draw. He was given the WWE Championship and Universal Titles and barely even defended the titles, maybe 3x a year. Thinking about that, it’s funny because they have a rule stating that titles must be defended once every 30 days but I guess that rule doesn’t apply to Brock.
With all of the great young talent that was in last nights men’s MITB match, I would have put money on guys like Finn Balor, Drew McIntyre, Andrade and Ali. Honestly, as much as I’m a fan of Fin , I would have liked to have seen Andrade or Ali get the case BUT to much surprise of everyone, long and behold, Brock Lesnar was announced as an 8th person and steels the light from someone more deserving.
Maybe this is a set up for their trip to Saudi Arabia. Rumors are Brock is going to challenge Seth for the title so this maybe his way in. Maybe he could be given a match, lose it cleanly, Brock beats him down and then cashes in. Either way, if Vince wants to improve viewership for Raw and SD and make the MITB briefcase matter and relevant, this is not the way to do it. He’s out of touch with what’s the fans wants because it’s what wants.
With AEW getting a slot on TNT, there will be competition and let the WWE/WCW part 2 but Vince will lose this one in the long run unless Triple H take the lead and Vince steps aside.
Even as a Lesnar fan, I have to admit that he's a big part of the problem. There's almost next to 0 story progression with his character. WWE's built him up as a God and for what? So Oldberg could come back and be the first to cleanly pin him (in a squash match at that)? And so everyone else can either low blow him or get suplexed around for 20+ minutes? And this is the guy who keeps hogging titles and accolades while barely showing up? Then when he does show up, Heyman just cuts the same promo telling us, "Yea. He's WWE God. And there's nothing you can do about it, but let me reaffirm this fact for 15 more minutes because I'm not sure you guys get the point yet".
Lesnar and the way he is booked just really helps fuel how pointless WWE is and highlights how inferior the current roster is (in Vince's mind anyway). If you've seen one Lesnar match in the past 5 years, you've seen them all. If you've seen one Raw in the past 5 years, you've seen them all. So yea. He's kind of a big problem.
But he's still a more credible headliner than the rest of the full-time roster. Things haven't exactly been great since he left. The past month has arguably been the worst in the WWE's history.
The worst point, ironically, was the 3rd hour of RAW that internet favourites Seth Rollins and AJ Styles headlined. For months, perhaps years, we were told that these two would tear down the house if they were given the ball at the expense of Brock and Cena. Yet when they were given the ball, they produced one of the lowest rated 3rd hours in RAW's history (sub 2 million). Sure, over-saturation and poor booking also contributed to that low number, in addition to Rollins' shortcomings. But it proved that Brock wasn't really the problem.
But he's still a more credible headliner than the rest of the full-time roster. Things haven't exactly been great since he left. The past month has arguably been the worst in the WWE's history.
The worst point, ironically, was the 3rd hour of RAW that internet favourites Seth Rollins and AJ Styles headlined. For months, perhaps years, we were told that these two would tear down the house if they were given the ball at the expense of Brock and Cena. Yet when they were given the ball, they produced one of the lowest rated 3rd hours in RAW's history (sub 2 million). Sure, over-saturation and poor booking also contributed to that low number, in addition to Rollins' shortcomings. But it proved that Brock wasn't really the problem.
Sure, maybe he's not the problem, but how does this help? Brock isn't going to be showing up weekly, using him for a sneaky beat down win does nothing for anybody, and no one's going to care if he does a big called shot because he's wrestled the same fucking match for the past 4 years.
I wonder if WWE has such a problem making stars today because they keep giving big moment after big moment to part timers. Especially part timers like Lesnar who is the apotheosis of the no character wrestler that likes to fight.
Brock is one of my top 5 favorite wrestlers of all time but it's true, he ain't a draw for shit. Nothing really justifies his booking except that Vince has always been obsessed with Brock. Even way back in the 2000s, Brock wasn't a justifiable draw back then either
Brock is a favorite. But I'm not gonna worship a guy who is given so much and gives so little. I don't have to defend my favorites if they only turn in 2 or 3 mediocre performances a year
While there's no doubt he's the biggest name they have on the active roster, that doesn't mean he's a huge draw. People are just over him, nobody cares anymore.
He is not a television viewership and live gate draw, the two areas that WWE is suffering with big time. I understand they're freaking out over television viewership being in the toilet, but Brock Lesnar is not the solution to that problem. His overpowered booking since 2012 must be a large reason why viewership is in the toilet.
People are speculating that Brock Lesnar will be used to unify the heavyweight titles and be the catalyst to kayfabe end the comatose "brand split" yet I can think of no greater way to drop a hydrogen bomb on television viewership than to have him kidnap RAW's main event scene AND Smackdown's main event scene for another year. Everybody is a geek...but ROMAN REIGNS. GOTTA MAKE ROMAN LOOK STRONG
Brock is great and all, and having Brock around to round out a Wrestlemania card is good business, but it's been detrimental to everyone else for at least 5 years.
Brock coming in and out of WWE doesn't bother me, if you kept him away from the main event scene involving the titles. There's gonna be a day where Brock leaves for good, Vince is going to look around at who can step up and their won't be anyone.
He doesn't have "Boo We Want You Too Lose" heat he has "We Hate This Guy Go Away We Never Want To Look At You Again"heat. What exactly does Vince get out of this? Pay this guy obscene amounts of money to wrestle 5 times a year. Show up on RAW 4 times a year. Doesn't move a ratings point,doesn't earn him a penny more. To practically kiss this meathead's feet? The Honor of it?
Brock can pretty much do whatever he wants. Sponsors, social justice warriors, soccer moms network execs never ever complain about his rated TV-14/R antics?
Brock is like a shield for WWE to be able to to do edgier stuff using Brock.
Other than getting busted open, Brock isn't particularly edgy. He doesn't talk, so he doesn't swear, he rarely does any interviews in public to say anything that makes him look like a horrible person, and there's never been anything on Brock that paints him as a virulent racist, misogynist, rapist or whatever. There's like maybe one vaguely homophobic quote from him but it's hardly unique among athletes in general.
The worst thing people have on Brock is he was caught for steroids. But there's nothing particularly un-PC about him. He's actually rather well behaved for a guy who's been in the WWE spotlight for so long. Orton seems like a much worse human being than Brock. I've never heard about Brock harassing women or writers like with Orton. He just doesn't give a fuck about anything except piling up money. Brock seems to me to be almost the perfect heel for the PC era, actually.
Did you see Sami Zayn's promos this last month? He was essentially a meat puppet for Vince, expressing his contempt and disdain for his own paying customers. They know exactly what they're doing, and that's giving their dwindling audience a giant middle finger.
Just apathy and exhaustion, that "Here we go again" and "Same Shit Different Toilet" vibe WWE has had for 10 years now.
I can't see Brock really doing anything positive for the company. I think it will be really overbooked and grandiose and designed to make Brock look as strong as possible, likely a unifying double champion.
While Brock Lesnar has fans who would be happy with that, he also has fans who would be unhappy with that, and for much of the audience some unifying "Beast" heel would be the last straw.
I'm pulling the plug if he unifies until he is gone for keeps. WWE ain't the only professional wrestling in the world to watch.
I'm over Brock. His MMA character is shit. If Batista was in his spot I'd be fine with it because that guy is a walking meme and gave us a memorable moment every time he showed up.
My favorite memories of Brock is when he cut his own promos. I don't want to hear Heyman repeat the same tired lines over and over again while Brock just stands there.
Really wish I wasn't so young cause my memories of Brock will now always be associated with the shitty version we get nowadays rather than some pretty entertaining stuff I saw he did back in the day like that (though his wrestling style still wasn't personally for me even then when it was a lot better)
In terms of WWE they still see Brock as their biggest star which is really a double edged sword as though they aren't inherently wrong it's their over reliance on his star power that has helped to cause this problem in the first place (yes there are other factors but you can't exactly tell me this isn't a big one) and even that star power has massively fallen recently.
What about the fans they had to cut away from? You know..the ones heading for the exit as soon as he climbed the ladder? It's one thing to say you didn't have a problem with this, but dont try and act like that's the general consensus.
Even brock fans are on here posting that this was the wrong decision. You have to see how this is hindering them from creating new stars at this point. I'm sure our tears are delicious, but what will you drink once brock gives us all the middle finger (again. And he will) while all us work rate marks have roh, njpw, and now aew to enjoy? We're not gonna care about this for much longer and you guys are gonna be left with this product. Or in this case, lack there of..
Quit being ignorant, Lesnar IS a draw and plenty of people including myself like seeing him on television. I just wish that they would use him in special matches at PPV's instead of being a champion. It really doesn't help the company when he is champion and never appearing.
Until people quit going to shows and spending money on WWE stuff, Vince will never care.
Unless he's financially damaged Vince literally doesn't give a fuck what you think. End of story.
The man is running a show in the country that backed 9/11.
Nothing matters but $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$
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