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All Raw TV Ratings, Buys, Attendance, Draw Talk Here - THE RATINGS WAR PART VI #LolRatings

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**All TV Ratings, Buys, Draw Talk Here**

Previous Thread HERE:

http://www.wrestlingforum.com/raw/1...talk-here-ratings-war-part-v-lol-ratings.html

NEW THREAD BITCHES ~!!

It's the ratings thread, that thing that WWE apparently doesn't give a shit about, yeah (right)?

The next chapter in the ongoing saga that is the numbers game. Where numbers and decimal points gets analysed to the tenth degree and the dreaded 'Draw' phrase gets bought up and people get their handbags out and have a 'discussion' over a bunch of numbers.

Even people who don't watch are enamored by dem numbers :side: :evil

IT'S ALL ABOUT DEM NUMBERS!!!!!

Everything is fine though, riiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiight??? :reigns

THE RATINGS WAR PART VI

 
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#86 · (Edited)
Raw draws poor attendance for major market show

They made fun of WWE for having to paper the house, which was the one thing on the show that I thought WWE wouldn’t be happy about, because it would be a Raw nerve since they drew 6,000 fans for a major market show, but WWE has also run the market a lot in recent weeks with a PPV the night before in Los Angeles and a Raw two weeks ago at the Honda Center.
Source - Wrestling Observer Newsletter

I see Roman is still selling the tickets John hasn't sold in 5 years :reigns2


Edit: Mods, don't let this waste away in the Raw draws thread. This needs to be seen by those who harp on about business being great and rEc0rd rEVeNue.
 
#2,454 ·
Re: WON: Less women watching even with more time being devoted to the women & Ronda positioned as the biggest star in the company

Makes sense to me for a couple reasons.

First off, women don't like being pandered to any more than men like watching women getting pandered to. They're regular people, they just want a god damn show like everyone else, and don't care about herstory being made every 5 minutes. This social justice bullshit that caused the womens Evolution is an internet minority, combined with corporate interests. It has nothing to do with regular, every day, ordinary women. Vince just thinks that women want women on top and he doesn't look any further beneath the surface than that. It's no different than Vince stupidly thinking that fans want Charlotte more than Becky and Asuka because Becky and Asuka don't have a famous last name, are foreign, aren't blonde and have accents. Well.....no, nobody gives a shit. Charlotte isn't entertaining, fuck all the other horse shit. Exact same principle.

Secondly, most of the female talent in the company is garbage, especially on Raw. There isn't one, single female performer on Raw who's capable of attracting a wide degree of interest. Except Rousey, but we're getting to that, and it's not because of her skill.

Thirdly, as he mentioned, very quickly, Ronda being Ronda isn't going to matter after a while. The novelty has worn off, and now all she is is a green wrestler who's still learning and isn't very charismatic. She's not a pro wrestler. She's a what if. "What if Michael Jordan played baseball instead?" Well.....
 
#5,399 · (Edited)
Re: The STATE of these "Crowds" man -Pics of Raw "Crowd"-

When you have two geek world champions. With one being boring and having an annoying voice and the other being a fruitcake who throws pancakes and is being given a Superman type booking and a woman calling herself The Man and dating the chipmunk sounding idiot Rollins that tends to run people away. I’ve pretty much given up on this product too. What straight man would want to watch The new day and their weird antics with his girlfriend for instance? Big E is creepy. Kofi is a scrub and Xavier is trash. Also the fact that the main feuds heading into the summer is Corbin/Lacey vs Seth/Becky and Shane vs Roman is absolutely atrocious. Hopefully Joe takes the title off of that scrub Kofi to restore some legitimacy to the title. Also the wildcard rule blows.
 
#5,401 ·
Re: The STATE of these "Crowds" man -Pics of Raw "Crowd"-

When you have two geek world champions. With one being boring and having an annoying voice and the other being a fruitcake who throws pancakes and is being given a Superman type booking and a woman calling herself The Man and dating the chipmunk sounding idiot Rollins that tends to run people away. I’ve pretty much given up on this product too. What straight man would want to watch The new day and their weird antics with his girlfriend for instance? Big E is creepy. Kofi is a scrub and Xavier is trash. Also the fact that the main feuds heading into the summer is Corbin/Lacey vs Seth/Becky and Shane vs Roman is absolutely atrocious. Hopefully Joe takes the title off of that scrub Kofi to restore some legitimacy to the title. Also the wildcard rule blows.
Jesus CHRIST guys, get this in your head! Who cares who the world champ is? THE ENTIRE SHOW SUCKS TOP TO BOTTOM. Every inch of every show is the same level of geek losers and it's not the talent.

This is the same company that creates the amazing NXT, and the opening of any Takeover is more exciting than any RAW match. It's not about the Champions.
 
#2,433 ·
Re: Biggest Ratings Killers/ Charisma Vacuums in WWE Today?

It's crazy. Fans will acknowledge that the show is mismanaged, written horribly, forced scripts, nobody given any direction....

Yet still blame the talent.

Most of the guys could legit be superstars in a show that had simpler writing, better action and storylines that weren't thrown together last minute
 
#2,484 ·
There’s a lot to choose from, but the biggest charisma vacuum for me is by far Natalya. Especially considering how long she has been with the company and how often she is featured.

She may be the least charismatic person in the history of the business. Even with a real life storyline about her dad, she cannot muster up some real emotion to carry the story. Her segment from Monday was painful. Horrible acting, I didn’t believe a second of it. Which is weird since you would think all she had to do was draw some natural emotion from her dad passing and ruby disrespecting his memory. Instead she comes across as some weird Austin Powers FemBot with awkward tears. She is so bad, I’m actually pulling for Ruby in this fued.

Based off Total Divas, she seems to be just as awkward and boring in real life with her strange cat lady obsession, over filtered selfies and desperate need to be the 3rd Bella Twin.

It's crazy. Fans will acknowledge that the show is mismanaged, written horribly, forced scripts, nobody given any direction....

Yet still blame the talent.

Most of the guys could legit be superstars in a show that had simpler writing, better action and storylines that weren't thrown together last minute
This. Guys have no problem getting over in NXT where shit actually makes sense and they listen to the goddamn audience. Then flop on the main roster when Vince micro-manages then into the ground.

All those years of steroid abuse have to be taking their toll on Vince’s organs, so I’m sure this reign of terror won’t last too much longer. We’ll see what happens when he’s gone. The scary part is, Stephanie may be worse
 
#2,469 · (Edited)
Re: WON: Less women watching even with more time being devoted to the women & Ronda positioned as the biggest star in the company

What is with this "women watch wrestling to mainly see women wrestlers" thing? I certainly don't, and neither do any of the women I know who also watch it. I don't like being pandered to, I don't need to see women "making history" and all that crap. It's a little insulting actually, like "oh look, here's a first time match with women in it! Aren't we progressive?". Dude, I want to see good wrestling, and I don't care if a male or female is doing it. As long as it's entertaining, I don't care what bits they have down below :lol

The pandering is extremely annoying and it needs to stop. Thankfully, WWE is running out of 'first time ever' women's things to do by now, so maybe it'll die down lol.

I also didn't know that people thought that about female viewers, that they want to see the ladies succeeding. Most of the time, I just get "oh you only watch to see the hot men" thing :lmao
 
#4,282 ·
30% drop in one year.

Keep it up Vince. Keep pushing Baron Corbin. Keep burying the entire women's division except for Becky and whatever blonde flavor of the month you have. Keep jobbing your champions out in non-title matches. Keep up with the same meaningless tag team matches every week. Keep up with the formulas. Keep up with the dumb scripting and commentary.

Keep it up Vince. Maybe you'll get to below 1 million next year. Unlikely but at this rate it's very possible.
 
#4,472 ·
Re: If WWE is really worried bout ratings then these things have to happen in MITB to get ratings back.

So Alexa Bliss and Charlotte have been champion more days than anybody on the entire roster and it isn't even close, yet the ratings have completely tanked. But your solution is to put the titles back on them and that is somehow going to boost ratings? Why didn't it boost the rating during their already combined over 1000 days as champions?

Hate to break it to you, but this isn't 1999 anymore. There are hot women on every single channel and every single website, nobody tunes in to WWE so they can look at a hot blonde anymore, they have porn for that. People watch TV for compelling storylines and great action. WWE rating will never improve again until they gain back the trust of their fans and that is going to take a long time after the damage that they did. I'm not even going to get into Baron Corbin, there is literally nothing about him that is a star. If the ratings tanked under Roman Reigns, how in the world do you think Baron Corbin would help?
 
#4,541 ·
In the past they varied the shows. In the past they didn't book top stars to get distracted and lose to bullshit rollups. In the past they didn't job their champions out constantly in non-title matches. In the past they didn't give their talent these dumb scripts that don't sound like real people.

Their booking hasn't always been consistent but it wasn't a consistent act of sabotage either, on top of a format where literally every single episode is more or less the exact same show. No backstage brawls. No wandering around the building or outside of it. Just a stupid opening promo, long matches that go into commercial breaks, random tag team matches, and maybe another promo or heat segment in the ring. Rinse and repeat. Swap out one part for another.

That's pretty much every single Raw and SmackDown for years and years. Sometimes the parts work, sometimes they don't, but the formulaic format is really killing any excitement.
 
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