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well I would love to see the rock defeat this two guys , the rock has defeated every great wrestler, Except for this two I was very mad, when lesnar beat the rock at summerslam 2002, and then goldberg at backlash 2003
 
Re: why in the hell did the rock job to Brock lesnar and Goldberg?

Uh, because it was the right thing for business. It established Lesnar as for real, and Goldberg would of looked like a moron if he didn't win his first match. Neither effected Rock in a bad way.
 
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Re: why in the hell did the rock job to Brock lesnar and Goldberg?

Uh, because it was the right thing for business. It established Lesnar as for real, and Goldberg would of looked like a moron if he didn't win his first match. Neither effected Rock in a bad way.


the right choice was rock beating brock, retaining the undisputed championship and then lose the rematch at unforgiven
 
Re: why in the hell did the rock job to Brock lesnar and Goldberg?

I assume Rock jobbed to both because unlike other "legends", he respects the business and felt at the time, it was good for business. He knew the future of WWE rested on the shoulders of Brock and losing to him was crucial in getting him over. To my understanding, he and Goldberg are good friends IRL and Goldberg was making his WWE debut, so maybe Rock felt it would be a good way to get Goldberg over with the WWE audience.

One thing you seem to be forgetting is The Rock has done a lot of jobs in his career as a top star. All it tells me is that the guy never got the big head and never placed "kayfabe accomplishments" above the business.
 
Re: why in the hell did the rock job to Brock lesnar and Goldberg?

It's called putting others over. The Rock is an unselfish guy and didn't have a problem losing to both these guys. Besides, the WWE was in need of new stars and The Rock was leaving for some time when he was facing both of them, it makes sense why he would put them over.

So don't look at it like "OMG, why did Rock lose to these two!?!?", instead, think of it like, "Wow, The Rock is a nice guy for putting these guys over." Or whatever you want to do.
 
Re: why in the hell did the rock job to Brock lesnar and Goldberg?

the right choice was rock beating brock, retaining the undisputed championship and then lose the rematch at unforgiven
You do realize that the whole reason for him dropping the title was so Brock could get over and so Rock could shoot a movie? He was gone after that match and didn't return until the build up to his match with Hogan, which obviously is a bigger draw than a Rock/Brock rematch.
 
Re: why in the hell did the rock job to Brock lesnar and Goldberg?

He wasn't going to stick around. The match with Lesnar was his last appearance until the next January over four months later. The company wanted Lesnar to run with the ball and he needed that momentum. The Rock had like three matches between the Goldberg match and WrestleMania XX. This was Goldberg's WWE debut match and it would have silly to give the Rock the win.
 
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Re: why in the hell did the rock job to Brock lesnar and Goldberg?

You do realize that the whole reason for him dropping the title was so Brock could get over and so Rock could shoot a movie? He was gone after that match and didn't return until the build up to his match with Hogan, which obviously is a bigger draw than a Rock/Brock rematch.

well I hope that rock beat lesnar one day,
 
Re: why in the hell did the rock job to Brock lesnar and Goldberg?

Perhaps the OP needs to be introduced to the term "putting over". The rock never had any problem losing, he most certainly didn't have any losing to new talent like brock lesnar who needed the rub at that time when they were building him up as a monster. The rock decided to retire and was happy to put over goldberg on his way out, which was right for the business.
 
Re: why in the hell did the rock job to Brock lesnar and Goldberg?

Okay, OP at this point still believes it's real and doesn't realize that "kayfabe accomplishments" mean nothing in the grand scheme of things.

Rock's career doesn't get a boost by saying he beat Brock. Little known fact, HE ALREADY BEAT BROCK!!! He beat him and HHH in a triple threat match. The result of that started the Brock/Rock build up to Summerslam, in which Rock lost. At this point, it's not like he needs that victory on his list of impressive accomplishments, especially when technically has a victory over Brock already.
 
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Re: why in the hell did the rock job to Brock lesnar and Goldberg?

Okay, OP at this point still believes it's real and doesn't realize that "kayfabe accomplishments" mean nothing in the grand scheme of things.

Rock's career doesn't get a boost by saying he beat Brock. Little known fact, HE ALREADY BEAT BROCK!!! He beat him and HHH in a triple threat match. The result of that started the Brock/Rock build up to Summerslam, in which Rock lost. At this point, it's not like he needs that victory on his list of impressive accomplishments, especially when technically has a victory over Brock already.

I agree with you I saw that match in global warning 2002, but I would like to see another rock vs brock match in the future
 
Re: why in the hell did the rock job to Brock lesnar and Goldberg?

the right choice was rock beating brock, retaining the undisputed championship and then lose the rematch at unforgiven
That doesn't make any sense. I mentioned this before in another thread weeks ago, you have to pull the trigger in these situations in the first match. Warrior and Goldberg would of never got over to the level they got over at if they lost to Hogan first, then won in a rematch.
 
Re: why in the hell did the rock job to Brock lesnar and Goldberg?

Save this post for the next someone bitches about Rock not putting people over. Rock put Lesnar over in an incredible way.

That's why in my mind he can do whatever the fuck he wants to do. G.O.A.T.
 
Re: why in the hell did the rock job to Brock lesnar and Goldberg?

Rock did the right thing. I still think the Goldberg match was terrible because of Rock hamming it up. He didn't seem serious in the least bit and in actuality I don't think it did Goldberg any favors to be honest.
 
Re: why in the hell did the rock job to Brock lesnar and Goldberg?

It was right for business...If it's right for business, guys like Rock will do the job (If it's done correctly)..He lost to Brock to put over & legitimize Brock as a budding superstar instead of beating Brock and as a result Brock loses steam. He lost to Goldberg because to make Goldberg legit, the guy has to win his first match in the company, not to mention Rock was leaving. Don't gain nothing from winning as you walk out..Right for business
 
Re: why in the hell did the rock job to Brock lesnar and Goldberg?

The Rock has always done the right thing in putting people over. It's worth noting too that he was taking long breaks to film movies after each of those two matches losing to Brock and Goldberg. So there was really never going to be a chance of him winning either of those. I guess it's just a shame that neither Brock, nor Goldberg went on to have long careers where WWE could really benefit from those two beating Rocky. I guess Goldberg was running out of steam by the end, but had Lesnar stuck around, I imagine he and Rock could have done huge business had they done a rematch. I know they could still do a rematch, but 10 years after the fact, it won't have the same effect.
 
Re: why in the hell did the rock job to Brock lesnar and Goldberg?

because it was the right thing to do, Brock was the next big thing who was groomed to be the company's future franchise and Rock was leaving to shoot a movie

Rock's a professional, he didn't let the mark/ego get the better of him, he always knew the difference between what's real and what's fake, sadly the same couldn't be said about many other main-eventers (Bret, Hogan, HBK, etc..)
 
Re: why in the hell did the rock job to Brock lesnar and Goldberg?

Because the Rock was winding down his career at that point, becoming more interested in doing movies, and wanted to give back to the business that had given him so much. Don't see why it matters, it didn't hurt his credibility anyways.
 
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