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See this is how you book a giant...you listening wwe? You dont have him lose every angle hes ever put in, yet constantly expect us to believe hes some sort of unbeatable guy.
Agreed sort of....unbeatable monsters get OLD. Vince Sr. knew this and this is exactly why they sent Andre out on loan to all the other territories. Vince basically acted as his private booker. It helped him make bank, and it helped him keep Andre fresh by not overexposing him,
 
Well, after doing some reserach on this topic. Here is what I came up with regarding Andre's pinfall losses or losses that were of significane:

1989: IC Champion the Ultimate Warrior pinned (according to the History of WWE) at least 9 times in the autumn during the houseshows. Since there are many clashes between these two it is believed that Andre actually lost many more matches by pinfall since many of the results are unknown and WWF tend to have the same results for each town they went in to. (I've seen one of these matches so I can for sure say Warrior pinned Andre at least once)

31-jul-88 Andre lost to Hulk Hogan in a Steel-Cage-Match at the Wrestle Fest 88 event in Milwaukee, WI
29-mar-1987 Andre got pinned by WWF Champion Hulk Hogan at WM 3 in Michigan

17-jun-1986: Antonio Inoki forced Andre to submit in Nagoya, Japan, in a an IWGP Semi Final (This match do exist since I've seen the entire match)

12-feb-84 Andre loses to UWA Champion El Canek in a 2-Out-Of-3-Falls-Match at at UWA Show Naulcalpan, MEXICO (People claim it was by pinfall, But I have never seen the entire match, just clips)

? - ? - 1980-1982 Andre loses to Mid South Champion Jerry Lawler by Count Out in Louisville, KY for Mid-South. (Lawler confirms this in his book, that it was by CO, not by pin, but still go a lot of heat from Vince sr)

05-mar-78 Andre The Giant and Roy Welch loses to Ron Garvin by (According to the legend) pinfall in a Handicap-Match at a TV Taping in Knoxville, TN (However there are no footage of the entire match)

07-okt-76 Andre loses to Antonio Inoki in a Single-Match in Tokyo, when the referee stops the match

10-feb-74 Andre loses to The Sheik in a singles-Match in Toronto, when the referee stops the match (I've seen this match so I know for sur it took place)

18-dec-72 Andre for sure lost to Killer Kowalski in Quebec City, and according to legend it was by pinfall

31-maj-72 Andre for sure lost to Don Leo Jonathon in Montreal, and also here according to legend it was by pinfall

06-maj-72 Andre lost to Strong Kobayashi in the 4th-IWA-World-Series-FINAL in Morioka Japan. How Andre lost can only be speculated, but it is not entirely ruled out that he lost by pinfall

27-apr-71 Andre lost to Karl Gotch in Nagoya, Japan. According to sources it was by pinfall


Also it is to be assumed that Andre lost several times before these dates by pinfall, because he started his career in 1964, so it is highly unlikely that he did not lose a single match up to that point.



So with that said, so far Andre lost to

Warrior 9 times by pin
Hogan 1 time by pin, 1 time in a cage
Inoki 1 time by submission, 1 time by stoppage
El Canek 1 time by pin
Garvin 1 time by pin
The Sheik 1 time by stoppage
Kowalski 1 time by pin
Don Leo 1 time by pin
Gotch 1 time by pin


That is 16 known pinfall losses for a career that lasted for 28 years.

anyone who can add more to this topic?
Great post! Thanks for the research this is the kind of stuff I could read all day. BTW I bet someone comes on here and posts that "didn't Warrior beat him once?" I am getting tired of these guys who don't read any of the previous posts.
Anyways, are we sure Bigelow never pinned Andre? They had a house show run in 1987. Andre's post "winning streak" fueds were with Bigelow, Hacksaw, Jake the Snake, and with Haku vs Demolition. I don't think Andre lost to any of them but if he had it would have been to Bigelow because Vince was pushing Bam Bam hard at the time. I was at a house show in Tennessee where Andre pinned Bam Bam and I was more than a little suprised. Seems odd to me that they would let Andre pin a percieved hot shot star every night.
 
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From all the results I've seen, Andre never lost to Bigelow, not even by Count Out or DQ. However, Andre lost to Duggan, Jake, Savage and Studd on numerous occasions by CO and DQ. But none of them ever pinned Andre. But Andre did pin Jake on several occasions, same with Duggan too.

So to say from all the results I've gathered over the years, despite losing to Hogan at WM3. Andre did not lose by pinfall until he wrestled Warrior. But then again, I could b wrong, he could easily have lost to someone on a househow in some remote town of no where.
 
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Andre was the perfect example of how to book a big guy/giant

Look at Big Show currently, someone beating a 7"2 500 pound guy should have a hell of a lot more meaning that beating Big Show does and I think it all stems back to WWE not handling him correctly when they bought him in, my opinion of course
 
If WWE claims that only pinfall losses and submission losses counts, and the they are only speaking about his career in WWWF/WWF they are pretty much accurate. Over the last twelve years I've scanned the net for results, Iäve never came across such a loss for Andre.
Wow, there was some truth to the angle. That's crazy!

- Vic
 
06-maj-72 Andre lost to Strong Kobayashi in the 4th-IWA-World-Series-FINAL in Morioka Japan. How Andre lost can only be speculated, but it is not entirely ruled out that he lost by pinfall
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2MVkKTo49EQ&playnext=1&list=PL24613AC7D84EBC61&feature=results_video

41:53 He was counted out. His foot got tied in the rope and and lay outside the ring stuck.

Watched it in 2009, and I remember it being a really great match, BTW. Peak Andre was such a great wrestler.
 
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