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post #1 of 11 (permalink) Old 06-01-2019, 03:55 AM Thread Starter
 
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Are there professional wrestling promotions without predetermined match outcomes?

I don't mind if WWE has predetermined match outcomes, as the action is still real. But I would prefer just honest, undecided outcomes, based on talent and ability. Basically just real wrestling, based on talent. Are there any promotions where the match outcomes aren't predetermined?
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Re: Are there professional wrestling promotions without predetermined match outcomes?

The action is not real. What the hell are you talking about? Wrestling moves and holds are designed to be safe. There is still inherent danger in a lot of the moves performed but the wrestlers are not trying to hurt each other like in a real fight. Get a grip.
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Re: Are there professional wrestling promotions without predetermined match outcomes?

It's called MMA.

UFC is probably what you're looking for.
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Re: Are there professional wrestling promotions without predetermined match outcomes?

You are looking for UFC sir/madam
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Re: Are there professional wrestling promotions without predetermined match outcomes?

As others have said MMA. But MMA with a bit more pro wrestling presentation probably like old school pancrase. Even though I think there were doubts on how much of it was actually shoot.

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Re: Are there professional wrestling promotions without predetermined match outcomes?

I'm not sure you understand the term professional wrestling........

Perhaps check out amateur wrestling??

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Re: Are there professional wrestling promotions without predetermined match outcomes?

In somewhat of an interesting concept, we've toyed with the idea in the past to have certain matches determined on the fly, mainly based on crowd reaction.

We had decided that we'd have the wrestlers come up with two finishes (depending on who was going up in the match) and then we'd signal the referee from gorilla position to tell the wrestlers which finish to go with.

When it came down to execution, we scrapped the concept last minute as we didn't want anyone to be taken out of the flow of the match.
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Re: Are there professional wrestling promotions without predetermined match outcomes?

Great thread.
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Not sure what you think wrestling is? Imagine what a clusterfuck it would be if you didnt know who was gonna win each match/feud.

I think the best you can hope for is that a company removes heel/face concept. Just have the crowd cheer/boo whoever they have connection for. In that scenario, Faces wouldn't necessarily have to face heels all the time and make matches less predictable.

The closest you may get to this is AEW. I think their concept will be more sport orientated with win/losses making the difference. Therefore you get 2 wrestlers on good form making an interesting match up. Rather then heel v face, it will go with 2 people with most momentum.
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Re: Are there professional wrestling promotions without predetermined match outcomes?

Agree this is a good thread lol. For a big promotion suceeds based off storylines and good characters. I cant imagine that is possible in that respect ? i mean even a good long storyline i guess in the end it wouldn't matter that much who won.

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