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Sometimes I agree with Yaffa's take on something feeling "too epic" but here it felt earned. They've been building up this match for awhile and it's a simple story and concept to get behind with the rookie trying to prove himself against the veteran of whom he shares a similar offensive style with.

It got me when SHO busted out the Armbar and looked like he might actually tap out Shingo. It go met when Shingo had to do everything to keep SHO down, elevating SHO's stock even in defeat.

Again, sometimes something tries to be too epic for it's own good, but this was just right IMO.



You know, as a wrestling fan, I don't think it's too much to ask that a Flipping Piledriver to be sold at least somewhat and not just be a set up move for a less impressive move. And hell, they did that twice in this match also with the Reverse Rana.

I mean there's a difference in telling your "art" and just bull shit. This falls into the category of bull shit. I'm fine with a guy like Ishii or Shingo no selling a suplex here and there because that's there character. But to see these guys dropped on their heads multiple times and not show any ill effects just completely takes me out of a match. Or the match has to be that damn good for me to ignore/forgive it.
I agree with all of this, brother.

Shingo/SHO told a hell of a story, and everything felt like it belonged. Including the length, because it showed that SHO was more ready for this than Shingo could have expected. Armbar spots ruled.

Yeah. I've had enough of this no selling head-drops because it gets a pop. It was cool the first time, now it's just infuriating.

Ishii does it because he has no neck, and he's a tough motherfucker. Lee does it because he's an asshole.


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That style of a match has grown so wary on me too. If we saw that type of match less often, I would've liked it more myself (I loved it still). I just wish people would switch it up and stand out more. It seems every company has a checklist of what a great match is and rarely deviates from it.

And that goes for all conpanies. New Japan and WWE most of all
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Shingo Takagi v. SHO, BOSJ Night 1 - **** ¼ (YES !)

Adam Cole v. Austin Theory, EVOLVE 127 - **** ¼ (YES !)

Adam Cole v. AR Fox, Evolve 128 - **** ¼ (YES !)
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YES Will Ospreay vs Rocky Romero ****1/4
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Yes To: Momo Watanabe vs Arisa Hoshiki ****1/4

So compact and easy to watch. The match was really simple, Momo, my current favourite for "Best In The World", dominates and Arisa makes a comeback and finish. Momo does an excellent job controlling the match with her forceful kicks, proving that they aren't "fake" like Arisa said when she made her return, and some great suplexes. In turn. Arisa did a wonderful job of selling the offence and made a mint comeback. Her Brazilian kick is a thing of beauty. Great match.

And oh, did I mention it was only 12 minutes?
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Ospreay vs Romero (BOSJ 26 Day 4 - 5/16/2019) is my favorite match of the tournament so far. Rocky is so great and I wish I got to see him in his element more often. Ospreay is not far behind. ****

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PAC vs Pentagon Jnr ***1/2 (18/4/19)
Aside from the destroyer/poison rana spots, and some little things that annoyed me. This was really fun, and I look forward to a future rematch.


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Enjoying BOTSJ so far (although I'm still recovering from how dire Taguchi/Douku was...)

SHINGO vs Sho - NJPW BOTSJ Day 1 - ****1/4

Sho vs Dragon Lee - NJPW BOTSJ Day 3 - ****1/4

Rocky Romero vs Will Ospreay - NJPW BOTSJ Day 4 - ****


Everyone has heaped praise on SHINGO/Sho, and rightly so - SHINGO's selling was fantastic; loved him not being able to cover properly as his arm was destroyed. Have to say I equally enjoyed Dragon Lee and Sho, particularly that Sho forced Lee to wrestle his kind of match, controlling him in a game of submission. Romero/Ospreay had lovely arm work too, which I felt Ospreay kind of dropped in the closing minutes, but we saw some incredible nearfalls to make up for it.
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Watching everything from BOSJ that gets a 7+ on cagematch so I'm not forced to watch more NJPW than I need to. Thoughts on whatever I watched from N1 & 2 below.

Shingo Takagi vs SHO @ NJPW BOSJ Night 1 - **1/4
I can see why this is being praised so highly in here, because I didn't care for most of it Nothing was offensively bad, but a lot of it was the typical mediocre, unsatisfying NJPW style match. There were a few really good stretches, most of which were stretches of harsh Shingo offense that actually got me invested, but the match went through like 5 different finishing sequences then carried on business as usual, so that momentary hype was lost on me several times, which isn't good. I would also like to bring attention to how absolutely hideous SHOs gear is, that shit belongs on a 14 year olds CAW in WWE 2k.

Taiji Ishimori vs Dragon Lee @ NJPW BOSJ Night 1 - *
Selling is hard and big moves mean nothing, apparently. I am, however, 100% here for Dragon Lee becoming a Shibata tribute act and becoming death itself in the Jr division.

Ryusuke Taguchi vs YOH @ NJPW BOSJ Night 2 *3/4
There were a few fun moments, but significantly more boring moments. Also more leg work that only gets sold during down time between sequences and ignored on several dives and things of that nature, and then dropped all together, but that's to be expected. Meaningless leg work in NJPW, then, now, forever.

I will be back tomorrow with more low ratings from this promotion and hopefully praise the 12 minute Momo match if she bothers to sell.
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Rocky vs. Ospreay deserves some love, indeed. I was dreading the concept of them going 25 minutes, but goddamn they actually killed it. The match built pretty well throughout the whole duration of it, and then in the finishing stretch of the last 5-7 minutes of it, it all clicked big time w/ Rocky getting a few TREMENDOUS nearfalls, fantastic counters, the crowd going crazy, the one last armbar by Rocky.. So much good stuff there. Also hats off to Caprice Coleman who added a lot with his pure passion on commentary regarding Rocky almost pulling off the upset. It's definitely gonna be remembered as one of the highlights of the 2019 BOSJ and rightfully so.

***1/2 so not quite getting a nomination from me, but it's the best match of the tourney so far w/ Tiger Mask's matches vs. Kanemaru & TAKA rounding up the top-3.
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