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Re: The 2019 MOTYC Thread

Yes to:

Ibushi vs Ospreay - WK13 **** 1/2
Kazuchika Okada vs Jay White **** (good match, White dumped Okada on his head pretty nasty with the second Rainmaker counter. It's still like watching Cody get this type of push, it isn't right because he's simply not that good.)

No to:

-GOD vs LIJ vs Bucks ***
-Gauntlet - WK13 ** 3/4
-Ishii vs ZSJ - WK13 *** 3/4
-LIJ vs Suzuki-Gun vs R3K - WK13 *** 1/2
-Cody vs Juice Robinson - WK13 ** 1/2 (Meh, Juice did what he could, can believe how limited Cody is.)
-Taiji Ishimori vs KUSHIDA - WK13 *** 3/4 (I really liked this match, if it just would have had a couple more minutes for a bigger finishing sequence I would have went to 4 stars. I really want to give it 4 stars, but it's just missing the big climax.)

Will update this post when I rewatch the full card again, I got to perturbed about halfway through the show to rate anything else.
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post #42 of 1570 (permalink) Old 01-04-2019, 07:24 AM
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Bottom to top! (Card order)

Will Ospreay vs Kota Ibushi - ***3/4. A hair short of a classic. Awesome moments tapered around, with a few goofy ones as can be expected. Doing the spot they first did on the Christmas shows was a flaw, would've been better saved for here. But brutally enjoyable.

Junior Trio Tag Titles - **1/2. Shingo rag-dolling Sho makes up the numbers.

ZSJ vs Tomohiro Ishii - ***. It'sssssss a disappointmentt compared to what they can deliver. Felt like an ROH title replacement match.

Heavyweight Titles - **1/2. This would've been superb if they got 5 extra minutes. A common theme of the show, everything but the final two matches needed five extra minutes.

Cody vs Juice - *1/2. Juice had done really good work when he isn't be taped down with gimmicks. Here, he had to sell Brandi, with Cody putting in a performance from someone working things out in the back of his head. This was as disappointing as a night with Brandi (which of course would be my fault).

Taiji Ishimori vs KUSHIDA - ***. This needed 5 more minutes. Taiji's offence has been a bit weak outside of his incredible match with Hiromu. He's lacking a certain something which is sad because we know it's there somewhere. But the entrance makes this super memorable. Gimme Taguchi vs Ishimori.

Kazuchika Okada vs Jay White - ***3/4. I loved the finish. So fluid, very well executed and they kept it short so we didn't see Okada work himself into a web. Many positives, IMO.

Chris Jericho vs Tetsuya Naito - ****. Jericho pulled a great performance out. Naito did some magic, though. Still a bit of the action was flimsy but a rough and tough affair with some memorable spots and sounds.

Hiroshi Tanahashi vs Kenny Omega - ****3/4. A borderline 5. A phenomenal performance from Omega with Tanahashi killing himself several times. If they had animosity, they did a tremendous job allowing each other to tell their stories. No qualms with the match aside from Omega not always comitting to selling the knee.
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WK13 was the worst FULL Tokyo Dome show I've watched, but there were a couple of bangers for sure:

Jericho vs. Naito - ***1/2

“HEY CHONO, YOU LIKE THAT SHIT?” - when Jericho said that, I knew we were in for a banger tbh. Naito’s bumping was on top form to say the least - that one he took when Jericho gave him the DDT on top of the announcer table was absolutely sick. Jericho delivered a fun beatdown, and Naito’s comebacks ruled - he was very much on point w/ his work over Jericho's neck, as almost every move he dished out was targeted towards it. Him playing BASEBALL with the kendo stick was fun too & the kendo stick shots overall were pretty damn brutal in this one. Couple of very good nearfalls also.

Tanahashi vs. Omega - ***3/4

This was pretty damn great apart from one thing - the selling. Kenny did the typical NJPW main event selling where he holds his leg a bit & then he can run full speed to deliver his knees and everything. Tana also didn't sell the back too much, but I'd say overall the positives overwhelm the negatives; the drama was great, I totally got sucked into the battle of ideologies story they told, and I loved Kenny's heel work throughout. His over the top facial expressions, and cockiness has annoyed me in his big matches as a babyface, but it works SO well when he's a heel. Such a flamboyant prick. His striking also looked some of the best it ever has - loved those slap combos he delivered. On par w/ the last two Dome main events (Naito/Okada, Omega/Okada) & the best match of the night. The selling is what prevents it from being a 4*+ one.

Rest of the ratings:

Bill/Ibushi - ***
Ishii/ZSJ - ***
Both 3-way tags - *1/2
KUSHIDA/Ishimori - *1/2
Cody/Juice - *1/2
White/Okada - *1/4
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Ospreay/Ibushi ****1/2
Omega/Tanahashi ****1/2



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No to everything on Wrestle Kingdom:

Ratings (Best To Worst):
White/Okada: ***3/4
Omega/Tana: ***1/2
Ibushi/Ospreay: ***1/2
KUSH/Ishimori: ***1/4
Naito/Jericho: ***
ZSJ vs Ishii: **3/4
HW 3 Way: **
Jr 3 Way: **
Cody/Juice: *
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CODY vs JUICE 1/2*

Congrats to CODY for breaking his 3 * streak with this piece of shit, poor Juice got dragged into the mud and did nothing to clean it up.

KOTA Ibushi vs Will Osprey ***3/4
Two insane people go out and have a banger of a match without dying or doing anything stupid, well almost nothing stupid, because KOTA deciding it was a good idea to smack his nose off the ring post is pretty dumb, but not as dumb as letting Ostrich elbow him in the back of the fucking head BUT, they wouldn't be who they are without crazy risks, and we wouldn't want them any other way. Everyone watch this.

Ishii vs ZSJ ****
This is my jam, folks. Gross Ishii shots and amazing facial expressions, and Sabre twisting a motherfucker into positions the human body isn't meant to go in. DAT OCTOPUS

Jay "Knife Pervert" White vs ***1/2
OKADA'S BACK BITCHES, but even he can't stop the knife freak on this night. I had a feeling Gedo was going to swerve us but I still had my doubts because, well, Okada is Okada, and he doesn't lose, but on this night Gedo said "fuck that" Jay was wonderful throughout, and Okada was his usual amazing self. Rematch, please.

vs Chris "hide you kids, folks, because John Wayne Gacy is my hero" Jericho ***1/2
Give Cool Dad a shit ton of smoke and mirrors, and an opponent who is willing to kill himself to make this work, and you get a really fun match. Jericho needs to go away forever, but if this is it () it would be the perfect way to go out.

vs Tanahashi ****1/2
Well, this was perfect. Omega toned down the goofy shit for the night, and reminded everyone why he's wanted by every promotion in the world. ACE was ACE perfect as always. That table bump was fucking ludicrous, and for his own health he should never do it again. Final run was fantastic, and actually ended right when it should have I screamed "YEAH" when Tana won just a special moment.

I don't think Kenny is done because he didn't hit OWA, and that feels like as message that a rematch is in order. Next few weeks will tell us what we need to know.
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Jericho-Naito and Tanahashi-Omega both YES and 5*.

Otherwise, a relatively lacklustre WK, I thought.
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A HELL YES to Tanahashi vs. Omega.


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NJPW Wrestle Kingdom 13:

YES to Kota Ibushi (c) vs Will Ospreay - NEVER Openweight Championship - ****1/4
YES to Tomohiro Ishii (c) vs Zack Sabre Jr. - RevPro British Heavyweight Championship - ****
NO to Guerillas of Destiny (c) vs EVIL and SANADA vs The Young Bucks - ***3/4
YES to KUSHIDA (c) vs Taiji Ishimori - IWGP Jr. Heavyweight Championship - ****
NO to Kazuchika Okada vs Jay White - ***3/4
YES to Chris Jericho (c) vs Tetsuya Naito - IWGP Intercontinental Championship No DQ - ****1/2
YES to Kenny Omega (c) vs Hiroshi Tanahashi - IWGP Heavyweight Championship - *****

I think the high expectations for the show left a lot of people underwhelmed with the matches, including me, I was expecting bangers from Ibushi/Ospreay, Ishii/ZSJ, Okada/White and KUSHIDA/Ishimori but they were all a bit lacklustre given the hype. But still the only bad match on the card was Juice/Cody everything else was enjoyable and the last two matches were just amazing. Especially the main event was great with how they played of the story going into the match, just amazing.


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Wrestle Kingdom 13

Will Ospreay vs Kota Ibushi ***1/4 - No
Jr. Triple threat tag **
Sabre vs Ishii **** - No but highly recommended
HW Triple Tag **3/4
Juice vs Cody **
Ishimori vs Kushida **3/4
White vs Okada ***3/4 - No but recommended
Naito vs Jericho ****
Tanahashi vs Omega ****1/4 - No but highly recommended
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Spoiler for TOP 10 2019 MOTYC:

1. Dustin vs Cody Rhodes *****
2. Jay White vs Hirooki Goto G1 ****3/4
3.Jay White & Bad Luck Fale vs Tanahashi & Okada ****1/2
Kofi Kingston vs Daniel Bryan WM
Starr vs Walter 16CG
Jay White vs Kazuchika Okada NJPW MSG
Jay White vs Hiroshi Tanahashi BOSJ Finale
Jay White vs Tomohiro Ishii G1
9. Kenny Omega vs Hiroshi Tanahashi WK ****1/4
Zack Sabre Jr. vs PAC RPW 1/6
Ciampa vs Black NXT TO: Pheonix
Jay White vs Hiroshi Tanahashi Beginning
Ilja Dragunov vs Daisuke Sekimoto 16CG
Taven vs Scurll vs Lethal Ladder Match MSG
Go Shiozaki vs Naomichi Marufuji Misawa Memorial Show
Ospreay vs Takagi NJPW BOSJ
Zack Sabre Jr vs Hiroshi Tanahashi G1
Tomohiro Ishii vs Jon Moxley G1
Kazuchika Okada vs Will Ospreay G1
Gargano vs Cole III
Lethal vs Gresham ROH DBD
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