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post #3061 of 3092 (permalink) Old 10-04-2019, 02:48 AM
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Whats worse is the PPV numbers. The last ROH show, Best in the World did an estimated 3,500 PPV buys. Death Before Dishonor at press time is estimated at just under 800 buys. The actual decline from the last show was 77.7 percent. This is not a year to year drop either. Its a drop from June to September.
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ROH announced on their website that Flamita will be replacing Bandido on the UK Tour, as Bandido had knee surgery like last week and is going to be out for a few months.

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"Do not believe what your eyes see or your ears hear... tv ratings are consistent and no, you cannot see them."-Lavie Margolin on twitter

There's a bit of a silver lining for ROH in the midst of the PPV and attendance decline (no word on how Honor Club subscriptions look).

It sounds like ROH fans are still following the product; they're not dropping the TV show. They're just less willing to spend money on the product right now. Which probably means many of them can be won back, if the right steps are taken.

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"Do not believe what your eyes see or your ears hear... tv ratings are consistent and no, you cannot see them."-Lavie Margolin on twitter

There's a bit of a silver lining for ROH in the midst of the PPV and attendance decline (no word on how Honor Club subscriptions look).

It sounds like ROH fans are still following the product; they're not dropping the TV show. They're just less willing to spend money on the product right now. Which probably means many of them can be won back, if the right steps are taken.
This is sad because a lot of whatís been good in wrestling in the last however many years came from ROH:

Summer of Punk is WWe was an ROH rerun.

AEW is basically just taking the top of the ROH card from a few years ago (and New Japan, too, as they traded) and moving it to a new promotion thatís more willing to spend money to promote it (and with a better TV deal): Cody + Bucks + Omega (although his ROH was more like a cup of coffee) with Mox and Jericho added.

Plenty of ROH alums have prominent roster spots in WWE and AEW, obviously.

ROH has been repeatedly raided over the years and now with two large-roster promotions spending big money for talent acquisition itís hard to restock the shelves.

Iím a big ROH fan, watch the TV every week and generally have attended a couple of live shows every year (despite long travel) and I still hope theyíll come around again.

Maybe seeing others do so well will prompt Sinclair to do more than just shell out bucks to keep a few top talent, but to also beef up the promotion and take it to another level.

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Don't spread the idea that it's a money problem. More Sinclair money won't help shit if they don't get a good booking team.
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Honestly I think it just boils down to people only having so much money and time to invest. AEW has taken a ton of their fans and/or business and it's kind of unfortunate. Difficult to compete at this point and I'm sure they have to spend top dollar to sign the guys that they can.

And yes, the booking does definitely play a part as well.
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Still feeling the lingering disaster that was the MSG show.

Taven just about killed ROH.

Along with everybody that decided to put him in a spot he never belonged.

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Super bummed about the Bandido injury. I'm hoping he'll be good for TX next month. Flamita would be an amazing replacement thought. I heard Bandido is taking indie bookings after December, so either he's not resigning with ROH or will be non exclusive. Fingers crossed for another indie run!
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Flamita is a great replacement for Bandido.... I assume Bandido will stay with ROH, if he doesn't go to NXT/AEW. They've really been pushing him the past month or so, so i could see them investing in him, and letting him work other Indy dates.

Should be a good month, Glory By Honor, plus the 3 UK Tour shows!

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Official ROH Discussion Thread

ROH is doing such a bad job promoting Glory By Honor imo. I had to look on another web site for the full card, they wonder why business is so bad.

Guess the finals might be Lethal vs PCO if Scurll is on the way out and I donít want to see Rush vs Castle at Final Battle. Would love to see PCO get a shot and even run at the title even if itís brief.

*ROH Champion Rush vs. GBH Battle Royal Winner.

*ROH Tag Team Champions The Briscoes vs. Luke & PJ Hawx.

*Jonathan Gresham vs. Alex Shelley.

*Women of Honor Champion Angelina Love vs. Kelly Klein.

*Top Contenders Tournament Semi-Final: PCO vs. Dalton Castle.

*Top Contenders Tournament Semi-Final: Marty Scurll vs. Jay Lethal.

*Top Contenders Tournament Final: Winner will challenge ROH Champion Rush at Final Battle PPV.

*GBH Battle Royal
So far, the following competitors have been announced for the battle royal:

-- Kenny King
-- Joe Hendry
-- Silas Young
-- Josh Woods
-- Rhett Titus
-- Beer City Bruiser
-- Brian Milonas
-- Cheeseburger
-- LSG
-- Shaheem Ali

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