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I think AEW will beat them every week. You guys underestimate their interest
AEW's first few shows will pull in good numbers, the issue for AEW will be sustaining their ratings and with the roster they have now good luck.
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Great number and they introduced some great acts. They built to plenty. On USA they established a contender and a Women’s Title match, an interesting act in Cameron Grimes and did a title change and presented a villainous unit that holds all the gold.

On the Network they set up WALTER vs. KUSHIDA, Lio Rush challenging for the Cruiserweight Title and basically did the Tupelo Concession Stand Brawl. How the fuck is that indy? There were no jokes, no silly gimmicks (maybe some underdeveloped ones), a variety of matches and lots of people I want to see more of. Especially fucking WALTER, Matt Riddle and Velveteen Dream.

If the numbers are lower next week, it will be sad and proof that they didn’t really hit a nerve like I thought they would, but I expect them to be slightly up.
It's indy wrestling because there were no promos, no characters besides Dream, no storylines and no motivations for anything that happened, it's just wrestling and since 99% of the roster comes from the indies how's it any different than one of the serious indies like Evolve?

If you were a casual watching NXT for the first time did you get to know anybody on the show? We learned that the ring is sacred for Walter and Imperium and that was about it. Did you see the AOP vignettes this week? They spent 1 minute of tv time and told who they are, what they've done, why they've been gone and what they plan on doing, if you haven't been watching NXT you don't know that stuff about literally anybody on the show. How are new viewers supposed to get invested in anybody? It's not like anybody in NXT has an amazing look, presence and charisma that will immediately capture somebody's interest.
I haven’t watched NXT in a long time, and I haven’t been able to invest since it became evident that anyone I care about will be destroyed by the main roster, so I was unfamiliar with a lot.

* Io Shirai is the best women’s wrestler in the world. She didn’t win tonight, but she looks cool as fuck and I believe that she is closing in on the title

* Bianca Belair is a cocky athletic genius with big paws and basically beats herself. This was my first time seeing her.

* Mia Yim. Meh. I know she’s a veteran chasing the title that recently lost. She was there to lose.

* Candice LeRae has been married to Johnny Gargano for three years and is the firecracker of the division that is getting a title shot in two weeks.

* Shayna Baszler is the cocky champ of 300+ days that has an entourage.

I got introduced to 7 women in the opening segment. All of them were given more than “she’s a dentist” or “she smiles.” They had a better match than any AEW women’s match. I see a match coming out of it and have an interest in Io, Candice, Bianca and Shayna. I want to see what they do next. That’s a hook.

That was the first match.

Cameron Grimes is an eccentric southern chap. It looked interesting to me, and I have never cared for Trevor Lee before. He beat an enhancement dude in Sean Maluta, who I remember from the CWC, with one move because he’s apparently a dangerous dude. Everything on AEW goes so long. This went quick. I liked it.

Second match makes me want to see what happens next with Grimes.

Velveteen Dream is amazing. That can just stand alone.

I feel The Undisputed Era is pretty white bread. This is the best I’ve ever seen Roderick Strong look. As a gimmick, I’ll admit I don’t really know what they are about. But as a pack, they clearly have the place on lockdown. That’s gimmick enough. They’re nowhere near the level, don’t get me wrong, but what was Tully’s gimmick with the Horsemen? He was just a guy wearing suits who wrestled really well and was a reason. Well, UE have t-shirts.

This didn’t insult my intelligence by having people pretending to be something they’re not. Every presentation made sense and sucked me in, to the point where I’m *inherently* interested. I don’t need a stupid bullshit hook like “Who the baby daddy?” to make me come back. These people exist in a time and place, and I want to see what they do next.
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I expect AEW to do 2M views.
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when AEW airs so long 1 million NXT...iNXT...itll drop to 400,000-500,000
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Re: WWE NXT TV Ratings Thread: NO B.S.'ing THE NUMBERS.

Both shows are aimed towards the typical same kind of fan base. AEW may likely get slightly better ratings because most people will watch it live and then go to the network to watch NXT later on (gotta save DVR space). However once you add in the DVR/Network views to the live rating compared to AEW, I feel NXT will be significantly ahead in ratings once the "new" wears off of AEW.
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Both shows are aimed towards the typical same kind of fan base. AEW may likely get slightly better ratings because most people will watch it live and then go to the network to watch NXT later on (gotta save DVR space). However once you add in the DVR/Network views to the live rating compared to AEW, I feel NXT will be significantly ahead in ratings once the "new" wears off of AEW.
Bingo. AEW will likely win a few weeks, but it will trend downwards pretty steadily.
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Both shows are aimed towards the typical same kind of fan base. AEW may likely get slightly better ratings because most people will watch it live and then go to the network to watch NXT later on (gotta save DVR space). However once you add in the DVR/Network views to the live rating compared to AEW, I feel NXT will be significantly ahead in ratings once the "new" wears off of AEW.
Bingo. AEW will likely win a few weeks, but it will trend downwards pretty steadily.
Very doubtful. Moxley MJF Jericho Cody Kenny and the Bucks plus the tag divison will keep AEW afloat over NXT easily. Unless u start putting main WWE guys on NXT...ie HHH etc. In the end it's still WWE driven. AEW will also keep the smart fans who want to support an alternative


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Both shows are aimed towards the typical same kind of fan base. AEW may likely get slightly better ratings because most people will watch it live and then go to the network to watch NXT later on (gotta save DVR space). However once you add in the DVR/Network views to the live rating compared to AEW, I feel NXT will be significantly ahead in ratings once the "new" wears off of AEW.
Bingo. AEW will likely win a few weeks, but it will trend downwards pretty steadily.
Very doubtful. Moxley MJF Jericho Cody Kenny and the Bucks plus the tag divison will keep AEW afloat over NXT easily. Unless u start putting main WWE guys on NXT...ie HHH etc. In the end it's still WWE driven. AEW will also keep the smart fans who want to support an alternative
I think NXT is subverting the idea of star power by focusing on NXT-exclusive acts. Are Mox, Jericho or Cody really such big stars that Triple H will feel the need to counterprogram them?

Like, if AEW didn’t have those guys but another three. Let’s go with Rollins, Ziggler and Rusev. Is Triple H putting Ambrose, Jericho and Cody on NXT to battle them? Trips could get main roster guys if he needed them. I don’t think he does.

I think people are overestimating the drawing power of these stars. They might spark interest and it is great to have them, but they’re not the sort of stars that are going to sustain eyeballs for years because of their innate main event appeal, lol. I mean, they didn’t in WWE.

There will be interest, but new stars will need to be created on both sides and then it will be an even playing field. Triple H can start bringing in Daniel Bryan, Cesaro, Samoa Joe and AJ Styles for matches/programs when he’s established NXT’s identity as a promotion.
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Re: WWE NXT TV Ratings Thread: NO B.S.'ing THE NUMBERS.

NXT put on a great card plus it is propped up by WWE. AEW's debut by all accounts should have more hype, but I could see a world where NXT's ratings beat that of AEW. In anycase I'm willing to wager both will struggle to maintain 1 million viewers going forward.
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Re: WWE NXT TV Ratings Thread: NO B.S. JUST THE NUMBERS.

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AEW's first few shows will pull in good numbers, the issue for AEW will be sustaining their ratings and with the roster they have now good luck.
This seems like a very realistic take for sure.

I do feel most people will tune in out of curiosity at first and then some will give it a few watches to see if it's for them, then in about a month or so the drop off will happen. And there WILL be a drop off. What AEW need is that steady line of viewers. What they don;t want is for every week to be lower than the last.
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