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That I can agree with, but Johnny and Adam being made of figurative iron, that makes sense. High pain threshold.
And then when Johnny goes to the main roster and jobs in a four minute match after eating one finisher?
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So #ThankyouJohnny is treading and BTS fans are PISSED. Lol somehow TYJ are making BTS fans think its about one of the group members and Johnny wrestling fans and Johnny BTS fans are going at it lol

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And then when Johnny goes to the main roster and jobs in a four minute match after eating one finisher?
Ah-ha but he won't.

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I consider Johnny the #2 in ring guy in the company, behind only Bryan. He's a face people get behind and he's resilient. So he will obviously be kicking out of finishers and things because he has that Cena "Never Give Up" attitude thing.
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I consider Johnny the #2 in ring guy in the company, behind only Bryan. He's a face people get behind and he's resilient. So he will obviously be kicking out of finishers and things because he has that Cena "Never Give Up" attitude thing.
Well said. That's pretty much Johnny's thing.

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We get what Johnny's gimmick is but it needs to be severely toned down, he's making wrestling look bad. I'm no wrestling purist but that match almost had me throwing a Cornette style fit of rage. We've seen how the superkick has become a completely meaningless move because first guys started kicking out of it, now they don't even sell it at all, we're headed to a point where no move has any meaning because not only is it okay to Kickout of everything, now you don't even have to attempt to sell them.
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I'm not saying this in a condescending way, i just don't get it.
- he doesn't have that wow factor to his moveset like a Ricochet, not much in the way of high flying moves, which a good percentage of guys his size or even bigger have mastered nowadays.
- his style isn't as believable as a Daniel Bryan's, moreover he frequently no sells.
- he does these submission holds but he's so small and skinny they hardly look devastating.

I'll give him his due, he has genuine likeability to him, It's not like Sami Zayn's forced likeability a couple years ago, but he's been featured way too prominently and when you look at It, he's been outperformed by guys like Andrade, Black, and Ricochet.
This last bit really brings down your arguments. These particular guys are among their bottom tier. They all suck.

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This last bit really brings down your arguments. These particular guys are among their bottom tier. They all suck.
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I'll give him his due, he has genuine likeability to him, It's not like Sami Zayn's forced likeability a couple years ago, but he's been featured way too prominently and when you look at It, he's been outperformed by guys like Andrade, Black, and Ricochet.
Really? Sami is actually naturally likable and feels like a "realistic" wrestler who plays the underdog babyface wrestler to perfection. If anything, Gargano is forced.
I think on his merits, Sami Zayn is a more talented performer than Gargano, he gets the storytelling aspect a lot better. But as far as their on screen presence, i feel like Gargano's real life personality is more conducive to the underdog role than Zayn's, furthermore i think Zayn has found his niche as a heel, while Gargano could never get past tweener stage.
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I think on his merits, Sami Zayn is a more talented performer than Gargano, he gets the storytelling aspect a lot better. But as far as their on screen presence, i feel like Gargano's real life personality is more conducive to the underdog role than Zayn's, furthermore i think Zayn has found his niche as a heel, while Gargano could never get past tweener stage.
I guess it's just a matter of taste then. Personally, I have never connected with Gargano. Zayn is very good as a heel and maybe some of that has made people forget how great he was at the underdog face role.

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