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Re: How is Johnny Gargano that good of a wrestler?

All the moves don't make you the best wrestler in the world. Example: Okada.
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Re: How is Johnny Gargano that good of a wrestler?

As for the thread YES Johnny Gargano is tremendous wrestler and good in ring storyteller he always has this certain depth or emotion to his matches its why he's called Johnny Wrestling since DIY he always that certain natural factor about him.
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It kinda suck seeing him since his DIY days years ago and him coming into his own and now people are bashing him
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Re: How is Johnny Gargano that good of a wrestler?

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I'll give him his due, he has genuine likeability to him, It's not like Sami Zayn's forced likeability a couple years ago, but he's been featured way too prominently and when you look at It, he's been outperformed by guys like Andrade, Black, and Ricochet.
Really? Sami is actually naturally likable and feels like a "realistic" wrestler who plays the underdog babyface wrestler to perfection. If anything, Gargano is forced.
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Re: How is Johnny Gargano that good of a wrestler?

I thought he played a great underdog firey babyface in plenty of other matches. He has amazing athleticism and ability, but just falls into the "lets just do moves" trope too often.

Hopefully he's getting a break or will feud with somebody different who won't bring the worst out of him like Cole does (no offense to Cole).
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Re: How is Johnny Gargano that good of a wrestler?

Can he get over with his work rate in 4 minute television matches? Has he worked a match in NXT under 20 minutes since his Ciampa feud kicked off?

He's better off going to 205 Live where they work more the kickout spam style and he could get longer matches there.
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Uh.....you realize this ain't real right? Besides I like that aspect of Johnny, the never say die attitude that you can form an emotional attachment to the man.
What!!!!! Wrestling isn't real!?!?!?!? No shit Sherlock.

You can still have a scripted fight that incorporates some realism and common sense so it doesn't look like we are watching a goddamn human video game.

There's a fine line between never say die attitude and utter non-sense and Gargano/Cole have crossed that line by a mile. When a guy takes a flipping piledriver off a ladder and kicks out, the match becomes a joke. Not to mention that set up for a lot of these high spots defy any reasonable definition of logic.
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What!!!!! Wrestling isn't real!?!?!?!? No shit Sherlock.

You can still have a scripted fight that incorporates some realism and common sense so it doesn't look like we are watching a goddamn human video game.

There's a fine line between never say die attitude and utter non-sense and Gargano/Cole have crossed that line by a mile. When a guy takes a flipping piledriver off a ladder and kicks out, the match becomes a joke. Not to mention that set up for a lot of these high spots defy any reasonable definition of logic.
What is logic in wrestling? Seriously.

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What is logic in wrestling? Seriously.
There are illogical things we accept in wrestling like an Irish whip, but there needs to be some logic or internal consistency or else the whole thing turns into a joke. If Rey Mysterio spent an entire match trying to body slam Braun you'd think that was fucking dumb, why because it's illogical for a guy to try to pick up someone three times his size, you wouldn't just go "lel wrestling".

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There are illogical things we accept in wrestling like an Irish whip, but there needs to be some logic or internal consistency or else the whole thing turns into a joke. If Rey Mysterio spent an entire match trying to body slam Braun you'd think that was fucking dumb, why because it's illogical for a guy to try to pick up someone three times his size, you wouldn't just go "lel wrestling".
That I can agree with, but Johnny and Adam being made of figurative iron, that makes sense. High pain threshold.

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