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post #21 of 205 (permalink) Old 08-10-2019, 10:40 PM
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I hate the no selling, smarks are marks for big MOVEZ & kick outs these days.

Tired of that shit long ago, it makes it look so fake and stupid.
Just like a month ago you were telling me Gargano is this close to having the best match resume in WWE history, including the main roster from the past.

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So you hate 50+ minute matches and equate them to njpw when currently they’re wrapping up the G1 where all matches have a 30 minute time limit.

Probably not your finest analogy.
I didn't know that. because I didn't watch it in over a while. but I remember pretty much every NJPW main event match I saw being over 30 minutes and it got very tiring to me.
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I hate the no selling, smarks are marks for big MOVEZ & kick outs these days.

Tired of that shit long ago, it makes it look so fake and stupid.
Now correct me if I'm wrong bro, but after their first match you said Gargano all time is greater in the ring than Shawn Michaels or something very close to that.





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Come on @Ace you flip flop with your opinions more than Flipochet does flips, what's up with that?
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Now correct me if I'm wrong bro, but after their first match you said Gargano all time is greater in the ring than Shawn Michaels or something very close to that.
I haven't even watched those matches, I've seen the clips and heard of the matches here and there. The selling was stupid, but the majority seemed to love it and Meltzer was raving about it how incredible those matches were.

Never got to watch them nor do I plan to because I can't stand matches like that. Smarks seem to eat it up and are fine with the absurdity and no selling.

You can make a case for Gargano being the best considering what the majority seem to think of those matches. It's hard to argue against his resume/match catalog (his matches do really well on WON and cagematch). Although I have enjoyed Gargano's work outside the stuff with Cole. If Gargano continues to put on strong matches (a lot of which I will enjoy), it will be hard to argue against him being the WWE in ring GOAT and he may have me in that camp too.

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Come on @Ace you flip flop with your opinions more than Flipochet does flips, what's up with that?
I literally said the same thing for AJ-Cena at Royal Rumble...

Explicitly said I was sick of those types of matches and the big match/big movez, kick out formula.

NJPW does a lot of it too, but to me they protect the moves and sell moves better. There are still some matches which overdo it and it becomes difficult to get into the match.

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The finish was one of the worst most iggregious things I've ever seen. To take that bump, from the top of the cage, through a table, and onto the mat, and for one of the two guys to be able to pin the other like 2 seconds later is absolutely .
LMFAO this is the shit I'm talking about. It makes a complete mockery of everything.

And you wonder why I don't watch these matches when I read things like this.

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So you hate 50+ minute matches and equate them to njpw when currently they’re wrapping up the G1 where all matches have a 30 minute time limit.

Probably not your finest analogy.
Nah, there was a period they were doing really long matches for singles title defenses. Became a real drag, felt like every match would go 40-50 mins and you'd wait until after the 40 min mark before buying the falls. It hurt the crowd and matches.



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post #26 of 205 (permalink) Old 08-10-2019, 11:12 PM
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I love Adam Cole and respect Gargano but I will say enough with their matches already on Takeover. Also hate that Garagano can't sell for shit. Lately Cole hasn't even been using much of heel tactics in his matches. I wanted Cole to be full heel tonight but didn't get it. I would have like the finish had Cole won clean and not in a way that he won tonight. It made him weak.



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Re: Cole and Gargano suck

This is the first Takeover since they've gotten popular I haven't watched, because I knew what would happen. I used to like the Gargano Takeover matches when he was against Almas and The Revival, but these ones with Cole have just descended into the final circle of Dante's Inferno. Gargano and Cole have become WWE's equivalent to the Young Bucks. This type of wrestling is cancerous to the industry.

I'm gonna have a laugh tonight when Meltzer gives this 5 1/2 or even 6 and proclaims it the greatest match in WWE history. I don't know where this dudes perspective on wrestling went after 40 years, but whatever.




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The match was so unrealistic. It was ridiculous that Gargano couldn't kick out of the final move.

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We're really doing this?

Johnny Gargano, who has had some of the best matches, singles or tag in NXT history and Adam Cole, who has had great matches and is one of the best characters in wrestling.

I mean I get not liking a match, or not liking a certain pairing even. But now "they suck".

I mean that's a definition of a knee jerk reaction.
My knee is reacting, and unlike that fucking asshole Johnny, I'm selling it.

He's beyond horrible, brother. HBK and the cancer fanbase of NXT have broken his brain, and now we have to suffer through his bullshit. My one glimmer of hope is waiting to see what Vince does to him when he calls him up


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post #30 of 205 (permalink) Old 08-10-2019, 11:29 PM
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This is the first Takeover since they've gotten popular I haven't watched, because I knew what would happen. I used to like the Gargano Takeover matches when he was against Almas and The Revival, but these ones with Cole have just descended into the final circle of Dante's Inferno. Gargano and Cole have become WWE's equivalent to the Young Bucks. This type of wrestling is cancerous to the industry.

I'm gonna have a laugh tonight when Meltzer gives this 5 1/2 or even 6 and proclaims it the greatest match in WWE history. I don't know where this dudes perspective on wrestling went after 40 years, but whatever.
Dave has started handing out 5* and 5*+ matches like candy on Halloween.

It's watered down his own system. Can't even be arsed arguing about his ratings anymore, it's his opinion and he doesn't seem to give a fuck anymore.



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