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post #181 of 205 (permalink) Old 08-12-2019, 09:03 AM
 
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I did not watch it but if the match was what you said I agree that style is awful. Wrestling is best when it looks like a fight or a compeditive sport. Too much gymnastics in modern wrestling overall.
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I like both Cole and Gargano, but this latest match of their definitely took the no selling and kickouts WAY to far, it even took me out of the match by the end of it.
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What you guys are explaining is called "spot wrestling"

And yes, Cole and Gargano are huge spot monkeys. Nonetheless, Cole has potential to be US title contender and Gargano will probably be regulated to Curt Hawkins level type jobber for the rest of his career on RAW.
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I haven't seen this takeover yet but a 50+ minute match??? I'm not watching it now.

They are disappearing up their own wrestling-is-an-artform ass
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I love Cole, dude has star written all over him, the only time his matches are like this is when he faces Gargano because Johnny is Mr. Endurance and Mr. Kickouts, if Cole hit 3 Destroyers on Dream it would be over, same goes for everyone else on the NXT roster, its just Johnny that does this.

Someone said it best a few pages back, you know exactly what you're getting in a Gargano Takeover main event, its gonna go 40 minute plus, theres gonna be 30 finisher kickouts and by the end Gargano will do something stupid that causes himself to lose the match. Cole was just sucked into Johnny's vortex of kickouts.

It'll never get any dumber than when Cole hit a Canadian Destroyer on the outside on Gargano and Gargano kicked out, i mean the dude lost to a spike DDT on wood to Ciampa but he can kick out of a fucking flipping piledriver on concrete.... I said it last night in the thread that if Cole hit a Canadian Destroyer off the cage and through 2 tables Gargano would still kickout, i was actually waiting for that to happen.

I'm just looking forward to Johnny on the main roster, say bye bye to that goofy superman booking there, welcome to 205 Live my friend where your days of feeling like the top star and some kind of invincible kickout machine is over.


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To say they suck is OTT, but I'm in the same camp as everyone here. This was the worst case of 'Superkick Mania - The SuperKickening' and everything that comes along with it.

It's just one of the worst examples of booking that says the ultimate building of drama lies with kick out after kick out of huge moves. So you know before time that no regular version of a their finisher is ever going to finish the match. Then when you get these insane versions of the canadian destroyer etc then don't even finish anything it just gets ridiculous. The drama is in teasing the big move(s) only for them to be countered until they aren't, then that should be the end.

I preferred the booking of Trish vs Charlotte. Trish had her own awesome version of the figure 8, but it wasn't hers so Charlotte survived. Then when Charlotte had it on, it was clear she was the master of it so Trish had to tap. Simple.
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What you guys are explaining is called "spot wrestling"

And yes, Cole and Gargano are huge spot monkeys. Nonetheless, Cole has potential to be US title contender and Gargano will probably be regulated to Curt Hawkins level type jobber for the rest of his career on RAW.
think you have that backwards. Gargano is a solid mid upper guy same as Ricochet.

Cole is like 5'5. Hes lucky to make 205.
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No there aren't. It's your opinion.


Yeah, and guess what? If I'm making an argument using my opinion, then I'm making a case for something.

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There is no real way to measure this stuff although I could make a case that them main eventing the last 3 shows for the 2nd biggest wrestling brand in the world says they do not suck.


You literally just said I can't make a case for something that's opinionated. And then you immediately contradict your own argument by claiming that you could. So which is it?



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Yeah, and guess what? If I'm making an argument using my opinion, then I'm making a case for something.











You literally just said I can't make a case for something that's opinionated. And then you immediately contradict your own argument by claiming that you could. So which is it?


Exactly. There is no real way for you to prove they suck and there is no real way for me to prove they don't. I like them and can give my reasons why and you don't like them and can give your reasons why. HOWEVER....if there was one way to maaaaybe prove one of these sides, it would be the thing I said. But I'm not convinced of that argument myself.


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think you have that backwards. Gargano is a solid mid upper guy same as Ricochet.



Cole is like 5'5. Hes lucky to make 205.


You really think Cole is 5'5?


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