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Re: Shayna retaining clean against Io is ridiculous

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They want Shayna to be the champion going forward. Not sure what the big deal is. She's great. Io can do other stuff. It's NXT.
What else can Io do in NXT that leaves her in a prominent role? Because its obvious they see her as a huge star on a level above Candice, Dakota, and Mia.

Like the post match beatdown obviously indicated the feud between Shayna and Io isn't over yet. And people are getting sick of Shayna as champion, because her Takeover matches have constantly been the weakest on the card, when that wasn't the case with previous NXT Women's Champions.

Like I said several other times in the thread, don't be shocked if the next few months leading into Takeover is Io embracing a darker side and destroying Jessamyn and Marina in order to completely get under Shayna's skin. I mean Shayna will almost certainly have a filler defense between now and then, but I think the big story here is the whole Shayna/Io dynamic. Mia Yim is logically the next in line for a title shot, but there is no fucking way that is a Takeover worthy match. And Candice LeRae has spent way too much time either being FRIENDS WITH PERSON X or just being Johnny's wife. That's all she's known as.

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The women's roster is not bad. You have Io, Bianca, Candice (finally doing something), Mia, Kacey, Purazzo, Dakota (when she comes back). Problem is only Io was able to be built up to beat her, who else will beat Shayna? I pray to God Io gets a rematch and wins at Toronto, because it's becoming ridiculous and not at all entertaining to watch having her win all the time against more entertaining wrestlers.

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Io turning "heel/tweener" on Shayna is weird. I mean yeah if it's to get her more over as a face then having an edge is "better", but Io really should just be a heel, full stop. They missed their chance to have her turn on Kairi and have a match with Kairi before Kairi was called up.
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To anyone who's watched Stardom, Io could be a vicious heel, so maybe we're eventually going down that path. I'm also sad that we never got an actual Kairi vs. Io match/feud. The only way they could have their style of match and tear the house down was at a Takeover but we'll never get that, both will get so watered down on the main roster.

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Actually according to Stardom fans Io was generally a fairly crappy heel except for during her feud with Mayu Iwatani, who was the most over woman on the roster. The complaint was that Io would act heelish but still play to the crowd in a face-type way so she wasn't consistent.

Having said that, she's better suited in a heel role since she's not as good at generating sympathy.

I agree that a Kairi-Io match may end up disappointing compared to their STardom stuff though. They do take less bumps in the WWE for one thing. In Stardom they'd do stuff like jump off entrance platforms and moonsault off all sorts of high stuff.

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It wasn't exactly clean. Io was about to finish her off but was distracted by the goons. Sure the goons were taken care of by Candice but the distraction had already taken place.
That just made her look stupid and careless. There was no reason why she should have been standing there gawking at Candice for so long and ignoring Shayna, especially since Shayna has won matches that way before. It was "stupid WWE babyface" booking at it's most blatant.


Also having her lose via CLEAN TAP OUT was fucking stupid as well, there's no excuse for that. They could have at least protected her a little bit in the lose, but nope. I mean Triple H went out of his way to protect Shayna when she lost to Ember and Kairi, but he cannot extend her opponents the same courtesy it would seem. Playing favorite there Hunter.
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Actually according to Stardom fans Io was generally a fairly crappy heel except for during her feud with Mayu Iwatani, who was the most over woman on the roster. The complaint was that Io would act heelish but still play to the crowd in a face-type way so she wasn't consistent.

Having said that, she's better suited in a heel role since she's not as good at generating sympathy.

I agree that a Kairi-Io match may end up disappointing compared to their STardom stuff though. They do take less bumps in the WWE for one thing. In Stardom they'd do stuff like jump off entrance platforms and moonsault off all sorts of high stuff.
In STARDOM, there isn't much of a face/heel divide either though. A lot of joshi promotions don't follow the traditional booking conventions of western companies. Part of that probably has to do with the fact that joshi aren't paid very well and rely on merch sales to make ends meet. So being an antagonist to the audience is a great way to hurt merch sales.

I think she would be a much better heel over here simply because like you said, she's not great at generating sympathy, and could easily be spun as someone who only thinks of herself.
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That just made her look stupid and careless. There was no reason why she should have been standing there gawking at Candice for so long and ignoring Shayna, especially since Shayna has won matches that way before. It was "stupid WWE babyface" booking at it's most blatant.


Also having her lose via CLEAN TAP OUT was fucking stupid as well, there's no excuse for that. They could have at least protected her a little bit in the lose, but nope. I mean Triple H went out of his way to protect Shayna when she lost to Ember and Kairi, but he cannot extend her opponents the same courtesy it would seem. Playing favorite there Hunter.
Dude why do you try to find logic in a wrestling match ?

Look, normally a heel champ should never loose his belt right ?
Because all he/she have to do is get DQ....is loose the match but keep his belt.

It would be the most logical thing to do for a heel but they never do it.
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Re: Shayna retaining clean against Io is ridiculous

Shayna is not losing the title before being called up. They want her to be just as much of a monster on the main roster.

Honestly, I'm bored by her reign too, even though she's a favorite. At the same time, there's still no one good enough to take it from her. Io wasn't my cup of tea. The only one who genuinely had the charisma and gimmick to be interesting was Bianca Belair. No one else is interesting. Maybe Candice only because this image would be a great way to end Shayna's reign of terror and would keep her looking monstrous before her call up


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