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First time ive seen Matt Riddle and jesus christ this dude is bad.

Bland as fuck moveset, Awful Gimmic, Zero personality or charisma.

Roddy carried his ass the entire match
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That main event was the dirt worst. If this is what passes for 5 stars then you can count me out

It was a “forced epic” in every sense of the phrase. A bad mix between a shitty dragon lee match and a shitty Young Bucks match (and I like those guys a lot when they don’t do this shit quite so badly)
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Well it sucks I wasn't able to live discuss NXT Takeover with you guys last night, but hey the Weather is nice today, and Sunday was the perfect day to enjoy this Show. Let me give my thoughts if I can.

Matt Riddle vs. Roderick Strong. One of the best openers NXT Takeover has given to us to be honest. Riddle has always had great Matches with Technical Wizards in the Ring like Gulak recently as well, so it was no shock to see another wonderful battle with Strong. Strong’s work of the back and ribs was a good play following his parking lot attack on Riddle leading into this match, and the homestretch was spectacular. Strong is greatly under appreciated, and it was great to see him get that shine in a Takeover singles match.

Ladder Match for the NXT Tag Titles. No better Tag Team to give the Titles to then the Street Profits. You can't teach charisma, no hard how you try to, you have it or you don't and this team has it. They are also improving as a team itself so safe to say it's in good hands with the Street Profits who I wished won it over War Raiders if I'm being honest here. As for the Ladder Match itself brutal when it needed to be and I feel all the teams looked good throughout. O'Reily man did he take alot of punishment in that one, between the fall he took on the Ladder, or being dropped on by his partner, while also getting nearly killed off by near misses from the Ladder, yeah I was afraid for him of all the guy no doubt.

Dream vs Breeze. Dream called Breeze "The Great Value" of himself and for anyone who knows how it feels to be broke or homeless, Great Value is life. No not Cocoa Puffs...Chocolate Puffs. As the Match kept going I didn't see any great value version of Breeze, he felt at home in there. Breeze kept bringing the fight to the Champion, and it took some tricks for Dream to retain the Title. I didn't like the selfie after the Match at all, Breeze should of smashed his Cell Phone over the head of Dream.

Damian Priest is a lovely name by the way. The guy has been has been working NXT events since last November so I look forward to this guy and seeing what he's all about.

Shayna Baszler vs. Io Shirai. Going into my Predictions I thought for sure Io has this in the bag and colored me shocked that Shayna two Events in a row had me fooled. Listen let's get to the Match which was good, not better than their Stardom encounter, but still good. Shayna whether or not I like her Character and trust me her Character is nerfed badly to the point where she's a Lobster like Kamen Rider Villain from the 70's to me, but she hasn't failed in the Ring at least for me. I would say WWE has put this NXT Women's Title in a bad situation right now because who is gonna stop her? Maybe the mugging of Io after the Match makes Shayna lose it and give her another Title shot, but I doubt it right now. You can't give to Candice, it would be slapping the faces of talent like Mia Yim, Belair who have done more and have been having a good feud themselves during NXT weekly shows to give to Candice with no momentum at all. I don't think Candice would want to win it like that, rather in the right way I imagine.

Maybe at the next NXT Takeover I guess the night before Summerslam we can have Yim vs Belair vs Shirai vs Baszler for the Title and reset everything because God knows it needs it.

August 31st, NXT UK Takeover: Cardiff so I guess Dunne vs Walter 2, Toni Storm vs two or three ladies for the NXT UK Title, and Gibson and Drake defending their Tag Titles vs a few teams. For a guy who makes it every week to watch all of WWE's Show happy to see this news, as I think about what does the new number contender do for this Show hmm. AEW same spot that day right should be interesting what they gives us to pull us away from WWE that night.

Gargano vs Cole. Okay let's get to my thoughts on what I think about this feud. Cole should of won the Title before this Match and had Gargano a little bit more, because Gargano little engine that could Character was already on it's last legs in my opinion. It was rushed to the Stars of course via the injury of Ciampa, and I never like to see Title changes happen just to have that omg moment. I'm big on momentum when it comes to such things, and when a Company makes a talent wait too long to win the big one I hate that for sure. I thought the same thing for Roman when he defeated Brock, and Jesus WWE keeps teasing a Strowman Title win, as if I care about it anymore at this point because of the lack of momentum to it. Congrats to Cole winning the Title, but it feels like here's your moment kid now you can keep quiet. Is it crazy to think we get Cole vs Gargano 3 at the next Takeover and we see another Title change?

Asking that question because clearly if WWE doesn't care about Gargano having a long reign, should I expect a long one for Cole? I know it's Triple H's Golden Child, but it seems WWE treats their talent at times like Brand new Pair of Sneakers when they feel like they are old, they put them in the Closet. I hope we get a long reign from Cole, kinda indifferent to him as I like the three other guys around him with a passion, but were due a great heel run like Ciampa gave us I feel till November or even Wrestlemania time again and then a Title drop to Riddle is my guess he can come up with his buddies? Still a great Show to watch, with Riddle vs Strong being maybe my favorite Match of the Show if not the Main Event, but I was happy watching this for sure.
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Matt Riddle vs. Roderick Strong. One of the best openers NXT Takeover has given to us to be honest. Riddle has always had great Matches with Technical Wizards in the Ring like Gulak recently as well, so it was no shock to see another wonderful battle with Strong. Strong’s work of the back and ribs was a good play following his parking lot attack on Riddle leading into this match, and the homestretch was spectacular. Strong is greatly under appreciated, and it was great to see him get that shine in a Takeover singles match.
Well said. Easily MOTN for me. Strong is amazing and great to see him shine 1 on 1. I was yelling at my TV for Riddle to tap towards the end.

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Yes. Kairi was over big time and they undercut her. Nobody has taken off because of this boring ogre stifling the division. Io is now more over than before. Now we wait.

Io needs to send Shayna to the hospital and take that title or nothing about what happened makes sense. She needs to get revenge for herself, Kairi, and the rest of the division. Candice has zero momentum.
Yea I kinda agree about Kairi. I think Candice can get momentum very fast though. Everybody knows how good she is and how she hasn't been used hardly at all. I'd love the belt on Io, but I think Candice getting the surprise win and turning Io would be great in the long run and those two can have a great match. I don't even hate Shayna, but her matches are getting very repetitive and the women's division in NXT in general has really suffered, especially during this second run of hers. They have the talent, they've just been dropping the ball a bit with the women which is kind of disappointing because NXT usually does a great job with them. The NXT women's championship is almost a flawless title history.
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That main event was the dirt worst. If this is what passes for 5 stars then you can count me out

It was a “forced epic” in every sense of the phrase. A bad mix between a shitty dragon lee match and a shitty Young Bucks match (and I like those guys a lot when they don’t do this shit quite so badly)
Miles better than the past five WrestleMania main events and certainly better than the Double or Nothing main even.

So, if that was the dirt worst, I'd like to see what a real good main event looks like nowadays.
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Better late than never, about to run through the show. Very excited for Riddle/Roddy and Breeze/Dream in particular, and naturally dreading the main event. But by all accounts that I trust, this should be a fun show.

EDIT: Would just like to say that Kyle O'Reilly is a blessing that none of us deserve.
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I absolute hate hate hate the blackout lighting.

If I want it to look like I’m watching wrestling in front of nobody I’ll go to a local promotion and actually watch wrestling in front of nobody.

These idiots even zoomed out during Riddle/Strong to showcase the crowd’s NXT chants and it was nothing but a sea of black



Riddle vs Strong is fucking legit however.

Gargano vs Cole was a couple midgets fake fighting. Not a fan.

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Even later than when I said I was starting the show 2 posts ago but I just finished it and really enjoyed most of the show. Main event was just as vile as I expected it to be, just going to put my MOTYC thread post in spoilers below.

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Matt Riddle vs Roderick Strong @ NXT Takeover XXV ***1/2
Lost the brief write up that I had done about the match, but safe to say I enjoyed it.

Velveteen Dream (c) vs Tyler Breeze @ NXT Takeover XXV ***1/2
I was teetering on the fence a bit whether or not to put this here, but I'm going to let my bias get the better of me and do it anyways. I'm a massive fan of both of these guys and with a few exceptions, I got basically everything I wanted. Some fantastic character work and non-wrestling interactions between the two kept a smirk on my face from bell to bell. And more so than absurdly huge spots, the match felt like it was built on a bunch of really great, but small sequences that kept piling up on top of each other. If we were to divide the match into quarters, it was the 3rd quarter that I felt was the weakest, with some false finishes and significantly slower pace that I don't think was handled as well. However the last few moments were dope, and I absolutely loved Breeze getting back in the ring and begging the ref to stop counting because he can't win the title that way, and Dream taking advantage of the distraction to land his finishers. I love these 2 and I pray this isn't the last interaction between them.

Shayna Baszler vs Io Shirai @ NXT Takeover XXV ***3/4
This had a lot to live up to for me because of my love for one of their previous encounters in STARDOM, and while it wasn't quite on that level, it was still a damn great time. As it always is, Shayna's work on top was consistent and captivating, as well as all the douchey sprinkles of offense and taunting that she brings to the table so that even in moments where the focus is Io selling the damage, the match never feels like its slowing down for it and the story can continue. I got a bit worried that Io was going to pull some selling notes from the book of Okada after the first moves she did after getting her arm worked over for 5 minutes was to immediately bust out some hammer strikes, but thankfully beyond that there wasn't really anything shady. Very strong match, had a great time with this one.
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The tag ladder match was fun, went *** on that. In my mind there have been so many incredible and innovative matches of this type in history that I didn't feel it had any place in that conversation. With that said, though, if you put literally any competent wrestlers in this kind of match and let them go bananas, it's going to be very fun on a base level, just like this was. As far as I'm concerned, that's all it needed to be.

Cole vs Garbanzo was about as bad as you would expect, some of the most mindless LCD pandering stuff you will ever see. Incredibly bland sequences with long pause breaks between them to pad the time because is it really a main event if it doesn't go over 30mins? Mediocre to bad selling of the leg by Garbanzo, but its ok cuz he shakes his leg every time he kicks with it To make it even worse, they took the worst moment from their last encounter and made it even 10x worse, which is already a feat worth tremendous praise. Instead of simply taking a panama sunrise and then going on for a while (because why should moves like this have any value?), Garbanzo takes one on the fucking floor and kicks out, then the match goes on and is competitive for another 7 minutes. 7 of the 32 minutes of this match took place after a flipping piledriver on the floor. Good talk. These Cole/Garbanzo matches are straight up the Imagine Dragons equivalent of professional wrestling and are one of the few things that would ever make me say "I'd rather watch Okada and Omega wrestle for 90 minutes".

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