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post #81 of 142 (permalink) Old 04-08-2019, 07:38 PM
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Re: Meltzer on the WOR: “The Johnny Gargano vs Adam Cole match is perhaps the best WWE match of all time.”

I always get trapped in this weird mirror-verse. I have listened for the last few years as people tell me that the Gargano Ciampa feud is "one of the greatest wrestling feuds of all time" despite the feud having very clear problems right at the very foundation, despite the feud finding ways to jump the shark even after it had already come off the rails, the fact the feud has gone about eighteen months longer than it ever needed to and despite it causing severe damage to the NXT brand in general as the DIYhole consumed and spat out everything that got close to it. RIP Black's potential in NXT.

Then, on Friday night, Gargano got a reset. He got a reset from all the BS. He went back to a boy with a dream who hates bullies, who refused to give up. I was reminded before all this DIYHole BS why I loved Gargano in the first place. That match took me on a rollercoaster of emotions, delivered incredible action, told a terrific story and I was so happy to be able to come back onto the forums and talk positively about Gargano again... only to find everyone had turned on Gargano for being a "superman" and hated the match.

Like... fuck. This happens every time God damn it.
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Re: Meltzer on the WOR: “The Johnny Gargano vs Adam Cole match is perhaps the best WWE match of all time.”

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90% of this forum are WWE Main Roster fans. They can't tolerate someone else getting the praise. It happened with NJPW and now it's happening with NXT.
That's definitely part of it. I'm seeing people in this thread saying Meltzer is wrong and they're the same people who never watch NXT because it's just "vanilla midgets". So people haven't even seen the match are shitting on it.

I'm criticizing Meltzers opinions because I always engage with his opinions. He's an influential journalist, a LOT of people who start to get into the NON-WWE side of wrestling follow his list as a guide to great wrestling outside of the WWE. So his opinion does matter, despite what people want to believe

And yeah his opinion is reeeeallly shit on this one lol

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Re: Meltzer on the WOR: “The Johnny Gargano vs Adam Cole match is perhaps the best WWE match of all time.”

I thought the match was just good, nowhere near MOTN but I think the main factor is probably the main issue I have with NXT and it's to do with offence.

The overkill of multiple guys throwing knees, superkicks and enzugiri kicks is reaching insane levels. There just so many, and then you get these two guys absolutely spamming them to just 150% greater levels, I was just rolling my eyes by the end. It just grates on you and it's a booking issue.

But also I was just more interested in other matches. The opener tag match was absolutely stellar and amazing, and in my opinion Black is a megastar waiting to happen.

Also I loved Dream/Bro match - Dream just has such a personality, way more than Johnny and Cole for example, he just pulls you in. Plus Bro was great, I hadn't seen him that much and he was great.

Then that fucking war for the UK title, what a fucking brutal and great change of pace match. Amazing stuff. That's what sets these Takeover events apart, you get this totally different match in between the more samey US ones.

So yeah, I'd put Gargano / Cole match probably 3rd best of the night for me.

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Re: Meltzer on the WOR: “The Johnny Gargano vs Adam Cole match is perhaps the best WWE match of all time.”

It's the best match ever until the next billion moves, million kickouts match that everyone will have forgot 3 months later.
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Re: Meltzer on the WOR: “The Johnny Gargano vs Adam Cole match is perhaps the best WWE match of all time.”

It was very good, and my favorite match of the night (albeit by a slim margin). I don't agree with that statement by Dave.

Not sure why Dave's opinion on a match deserves a thread or why that thread always fills with so much vitriol over that opinion, but here we are.
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Re: Meltzer on the WOR: “The Johnny Gargano vs Adam Cole match is perhaps the best WWE match of all time.”

I made the thread because hyperbole Dave is the worst Dave, and I can't let this slide

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Re: Meltzer on the WOR: “The Johnny Gargano vs Adam Cole match is perhaps the best WWE match of all time.”

Wasn't even the best match on the card IMO. Maybe I'd think differently if I had been following the storyline but I'm coming off a 2 year wrestling hiatus. I found both Velveteen Dream vs Matt Riddle and Pete Dunne vs Walter more enthralling.

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Re: Meltzer on the WOR: “The Johnny Gargano vs Adam Cole match is perhaps the best WWE match of all time.”

People never learn.


STOP POSTING STUFF THAT METLZER SAID.. He's a nobody, he has no sources, he's only interested in clickbait. He's a gossip whore.
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Re: Meltzer on the WOR: “The Johnny Gargano vs Adam Cole match is perhaps the best WWE match of all time.”

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I must confess that I wasn't really invested in while watching it but the fact that the same move that got Cole a early lead couldn't put Gargano down after 30 minutes of action was a poorly planned decision. Made everything seem void.
This was on my issue with it. He should have scored the first fall with the Panama Sunrise.

I rate this match highly. Excellent match. Superb story telling. But... best WWE match of all time? Ehhhhhhhhhhhh. Nah.
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