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I only just saw the Io promo on YouTube. Tell me if you agree but, I'm almost getting some Minoru Suzuki vibes off of Io Shirai right now.

I love it on its surface. She looks so much more deadlier, intimidating... At the same time I'm also a bit ambivalent about it.

A big part of me thinks she should have a manager doing the majority of her talking for her immediately. Mannerisms are on point, but every time she speaks you can see her struggle and delay to put it rightly forward.

I know that she's on the no-friends course right now but I just feel that unless she can do mic work a little quicker she would be better off not talking much, and using more physical expression if she's not going to have a mouthpiece. And yes, I know the promo was supposed to be one of few words, but even then you can still easily see she struggles with the English.


I didn't watch the rest of NXT this week, haven't been interested. I think I've gotten bored so I'm kind of taking a break from it.

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I'll give full show thoughts later, but I'm glad they're finally giving Keith Lee something to chew on.

He acknowledges that he (whether you blame him or booking) hasn't lived up to his full potential yet. And in a promo that well shot and well produced, he vows to be better.
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New NXT.

— Those skintight leather trousers have sold me on this heel turn.

— Priest should have won after that first kick. So far I liked this better in NXT when it was Baron Corbin.

— So are they adding all of Evolve onto the Network? I'd actually quite like to go through their archives.

— Interesting ACH still has his old Naruto and gimmick stuff on even with his new jobber name. I am glad he beat Boa though, that guy seems so basic and dull. This was the worst match of the tournament so far by a clear mile.

— They don't use Keith Lee for a year and then turn it into a story? Why not just use him in the first place?

— Hopefully they bring Apollo back permanently to NXT. I know he isn't the most charismatic guy in the world but I remember he was really talented in ring and they've wasted the best part of what... four years of his career (?) not making any use of him.

— Skipped the main event, really don't like the Street Profits.


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That tall Asian guy was not great. Smiles miles (I think) was pretty good and I hope he gets someone better to with with round 2.


Io looked hot. Good promo considering how little she speaks. That was enough.

Street Profits match was ok. Looking forward to the UDE taking the titles though.


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Kavita Devi's match against Dakota Kai is the most viewed womens match in WWE history, that doesn't mean shit
I'd love to know where you saw this stat. Most viewed on the network; live tv; YouTube; cable ordered ppv? I don't believe it is and I think you pulled this out of your ass considering Ronda Rousey just wrestled in wwe for a full year.

I don't even know what you were talking about but I had to interrupt your straight up lie.

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I'd love to know where you saw this stat. Most viewed on the network; live tv; YouTube; cable ordered ppv? I don't believe it is and I think you pulled this out of your ass considering Ronda Rousey just wrestled in wwe for a full year.

I don't even know what you were talking about but I had to interrupt your straight up lie.
He is talking about Youtube, so I am talking about Youtube as well

Here are the most watched videos in WWE Youtube's channel, you can check it yourself if you like






Is there any womens match above the Kavita Devi match? Check your facts first before calling me a liar

SUPPORTING ONE HALF OF THE IICONICS, THE AUSSIE GODDESS, ONE HALF OF THE WOMENS TAG TEAM CHAMPIONS PEYTON ROYCE


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OKADA, OMEGA, ISHII, SANE, MOXLEY, ADAM COLE
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Velveteen's press conference was different but fits his gimmick. Very solid presentation. Random but anoyone else notice he was dressed like Lil Nas X lol. Loved the vignettes from Keith Lee and Killian Dane. Both have something to prove and I'm excited to see what the future holds for both men. I'm feeling Black Lotus Io Shirai too, always liked her better as a heel than a face.....

Now for the in-ring action. They've nailed it with the presentation on Priest but soon he's going to have to give us more than just squash matches. Looked solid but it's hard to get a good sense of where he is at given the level of competition. I enjoyed Myles (ACH) v Boa. Myles is a gem imo and glad he's getting a chance to shine in NXT. Boa intrigues me, he's very green but I think there is something that they can tap into. Him being Chinese and NXT/WWE wanting to tap into that market doesn't hurt either. Street Profits v Brit-Am Brawlers was fun. I'm here for both teams. Had some overly scripted/telegraphed moments but other than that I liked it. Glad King Tez and Dawkins are getting some shine. Curious to see where they go with TUE coming back into the picture.
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Here are the most watched videos in WWE Youtube's channel, you can check it yourself if you like






Is there any womens match above the Kavita Devi match? Check your facts first before calling me a liar
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I put too much faith into humanity for having better taste.
No problem. And it's simply because of the indian market who make a shit ton of those views. If you look at the first 10 videos there are 2 Khali matches there, indian people seem like they like to support other indian people, that's why we got the Jinder push (despite that he is actually canadian)

SUPPORTING ONE HALF OF THE IICONICS, THE AUSSIE GODDESS, ONE HALF OF THE WOMENS TAG TEAM CHAMPIONS PEYTON ROYCE


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Dude. You post this comment everywhere. I assume you are spamming this same comment on reddit and on wwe's youtube video of Io's turn, since I've seen this same exact post in a million other places over the past few hours. Io has to take a backseat for now. Chill the fuck out. She's already being better received as a heel than a babyface.

Did I want Io to dethrone Shayna? Yeah. But she didn't. But she got a heel turn in exchange. Babyfaces getting frustrated and turning heel isn't a new trope, and its pretty reliable at that. WWE isn't even trying to hide the fact that Shayna got LUCKY in her cage match with Io.

As for the Candice stuff, they need to give Io more credibility as a heel. I'll post it again, just so you understand. Io turning soon after winning the title was a bad idea logistically. Because then her current character would have made no sense. And yes, Io has to take a backseat FOR NOW.

She'll very likely be right back into the title picture if someone like Mia Yim wins the title, because outside of Shayna, there is a severe lack of actual credible heels in the women's division on NXT. The only other heels besides Shayna are Io Shirai and Bianca (and Mia already has Bianca's number). But you could possibly pass off Bianca as a tweener at times. Hell, you already have Mia talking trash to Io on social media.

Also don't pull the OH IO SHOULD HAVE WON BECAUSE KAIRI situation. Io already addressed that in a promo uploaded to the Japanese WWE twitter account. Where she outright admitted that Kairi was weak and needs friends to survive, hence her "abandoning" Io and running off to be friends with Asuka instead. In terms of kayfabe, Io only wants the title for herself. Not for the other women. But herself.

e: Also Io's heel promo is the most viewed NXT video across all platforms from yesterday's episode. By a very wide margin.
-Io's been taking a backseat for close to a year. You act like this just happened, but it's been a long time now. She hasn't won ONE single's match on TV since the MYC. For arguably the best women wrestler on the planet, that's pathetic. WTF are they waiting for. Forgive me if I'm not excited for Io to potentially wallow in the midcard for months and months (especially when Shayna vs. Mia is the title program instead). Since they've spent almost a year doing nothing with her already.

-So how did Shayna "get lucky" by making Io tap like a bitch at Takeover XXV after Io look like an idiot beforehand?

-How does beating Candice "establish her?" I like Candice, but Candice has accomplished NOTHING in NXT. For most of her time, she's been "Mrs. Gargano" and she's won NO matches of note. Beating her means nothing.

-How is Io winning the title from Mia supposed to be more impressive than winning it from Shayna? Please explain that to me? Shayna has been booked so far above everyone else that there is no bigger rub possible than being the one to beat her, and they squandered that potential with Io.

-Oh I WILL bring up the Kairi thing. I don't give a fuck about Io's promo. Kairi was utterly humiliated booking-wise in her last night in NXT. Beating half to death and run out of NXT by Shayna and co, for NO payoff. Don't embarrass her like that, if Io isn't going to be the one to beat Shayna, because you embarrassed her for no good reason in the end. I mean it fits with how they used her in NXT, namely not to nearly her full potential, but still.

-Etc.

Look I LOVE the idea of Io vs. Candice, but I don't know why I should care? Explain how one loser (in-kayfabe) fighting another one in a midcard feud is BETTER than the best women's wrestler in the company being booked as a top performer like she should be? Why is this not the title feud? I'm really supposed to care more about Shayna vs. Mia instead?

And if this match isn't even on the main Takeover card, then THAT will be super-telling. Sorry, but I ain't backing down on this.
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