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post #1 of 22 (permalink) Old 02-16-2018, 03:21 PM Thread Starter
 
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How much longer till things change?

So I caught last night's episode right now. It's sad when I look at episodes in the past, and just see how much this company has fallen on hard times, including the lighting, sound/audio, and overall energy in the show.

The odd part is, Impact isn't too bad per say, it features solid action. It's just inherently lifeless and boring. Literally Impact reminds me of WCW Saturday Night. Lengthy matches, canned episodes with canned audio, dim lighting, etc. Not a whole lot changes, you can easily miss episodes and not skip a beat.

Are there plans from Callis and D'Amore to improve the overall visuals of TNA/Impact? Will Impact start getting the top notch production they once had? Otherwise, are we all just wasting our times by continuing to watch these episodes? I barely keep up with it, just caught last night's out of curiosity.
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Re: How much longer till things change?

sadly some people in here will defend every last thing about them. I have watched this company since 2002 and i have the right to say the product is bland as fuck right now. Its still the same old shit and anthem has been in charge for at least a year now.


I understand the new guys have only been in for a little bit but it seems they are not driving any creativity.


I get it they have like zero budget and yes they have brought in some great talnet.But if you dont create a brand of your own and steer its direction, Your product comes off flat.


Nwa is an example of a brand with nothing but a belt and 3 wrestlers. It has already passed impact by miles right now with having its own direction.


i will not stick around forever with the product like this. It is boring as fuck seeing a weekly show just be filled with matches and no story telling between them.


I still have high hopes for april but sadly its in the impact zone again which also is something that kills the product. i still think Don is very good and scott can set up good matches, But why the fuck would u give aries a cheap pop 3 minutes after he debuts.


So im excited to see what they do and next tapings they have absolutely no excuse to have not created a direction

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Re: How much longer till things change?

I understand some people need shiny things to be entertained. For me however it starts with the actual product as in the in ring action and story lines. Now they do need to work some on that but it for most part is really good. Yes better production will be nice but that will come once Impact can start making money. They are rebuilding and that will take time. I would rather have good product and poor production than poor product and good production which we saw at the end of WCW.
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I understand some people need shiny things to be entertained. For me however it starts with the actual product as in the in ring action and story lines. Now they do need to work some on that but it for most part is really good. Yes better production will be nice but that will come once Impact can start making money. They are rebuilding and that will take time. I would rather have good product and poor production than poor product and good production which we saw at the end of WCW.
i sure did not mention anything shinny and i for one am saying the product is bland right now. Im sure sure how long everyone here has watched this company for but if anyone thinks this is better than its been, well you clearly have convinced yourself of that. If the product was good right now people would be talking about it.


its a generic wrestling show at the moment, They will not grow in that state. I do feel they will change that direction starting in april.

We will have to see.
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Impact right now is literally WCW Saturday Night or WCW Worldwide. No growth will occur from this. First off, with this production and presentation, who in their sane mind would literally spend 45 dollars on a PPV? Why not just offer it on GWN? Second, who will even put up their money to attend a show when the current promotion looks like what it does? Not even TNA in 2005 was like this.
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i sure did not mention anything shinny and i for one am saying the product is bland right now. Im sure sure how long everyone here has watched this company for but if anyone thinks this is better than its been, well you clearly have convinced yourself of that. If the product was good right now people would be talking about it.


its a generic wrestling show at the moment, They will not grow in that state. I do feel they will change that direction starting in april.

We will have to see.
Never said you did. I was referring to people who complain about the presentation.

I think you are looking at the past with rose glasses. Do you forget all the bad stuff that happened even before Hogan got there. PPV's that main evented with former WWE and WCW talent. Jarrett putting himself over and over and over. People talking about a product is not always the best gauge. Lots of people talk about WWE and there are some great indie companies that people are not talking a lot about.

In example of people painting the past in a different color these days would be AJ Styles. He was always great in the ring but often in the past people complained that he was boring outside of it and no character. Now they act like he was always great in all aspects.

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I dont think you understand me. I have also mentioned many times they have brought in a bunch of good talent. Its not about whos main eventing.

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Never said you did. I was referring to people who complain about the presentation.

I think you are looking at the past with rose glasses. Do you forget all the bad stuff that happened even before Hogan got there. PPV's that main evented with former WWE and WCW talent. Jarrett putting himself over and over and over. People talking about a product is not always the best gauge. Lots of people talk about WWE and there are some great indie companies that people are not talking a lot about.

In example of people painting the past in a different color these days would be AJ Styles. He was always great in the ring but often in the past people complained that he was boring outside of it and no character. Now they act like he was always great in all aspects.
Actually AJ Styles was considered a special and amazing talent even then. People always said WWE should try and lure him. He was the alternative to John Cena winning over and over again in WWE back in the day.
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Re: How much longer till things change?

Change will come, we're just seeing the early shows of the new teams first week of takings.

It's a marathon not a sprint. Let's see where we are by Bound For Glory.

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Russo took over creative in WWE in April 1997 but Attitude didn't take a strong effect until Spring/summer 1998.
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Re: How much longer till things change?

They are hurt more than anything by lack of resources now. It doesn't matter who's running things if they don't have the money to improve production, bring in new talent/retain talent, and run more live events and big shows.

Even if you say the product is solid, there's just nothing exciting going on and it's been that way for some time now.

They desperately need something to jump start the product. I've been a fan for many years and my interest has been declining and now is almost non-existent. They don't have the great matches and athletes that NJPW has and they don't have the top notch production and presentation that WWE has.

They just aren't offering anything that makes them relevant.
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