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Because that’s not what they are doing. Their agenda is to put all women into the same group based off some politically motivated ideology. They completely ignore the fact that there are women who want to show off their bodies and willingly choose to do so. Whether their motivation is to feel good about themselves or just because they like the attention, at the end of the day it’s their choice. Go to any spring break once and see how many women jump at the chance to participate in bikini or wet t-shirt competitions. The white knights act like these females don’t exist or they are wrong for doing what they want with their own bodies.

Then on the flip side, they try to demonize men who enjoy watching hot women flaunt their sex appeal. Their only motive for doing this is to try and make themselves look better in the hopes that these same women will want to date them. These fucking guys are creeps of the highest level, they don’t actually care about women or their best interests, it’s just an agenda to get themselves laid.
Okay, how about this compromise-- we bring back bra and panties matches when the women superstars request they return. If the women in WWE love showing off their bodies as much as you think and don't mind not being taken seriously at a craft they've spent years honing, then it shouldn't be an issue.

If the bosses ask then the power imbalance comes in to play, people who want to say no feel like they can't without it hurting their career, we all know that's a thing in WWE, that's why Ali wrestled the last 2 Saudi shows but donated their blood money as a silent protest.
Again no one would be expecting Becky Lynch to be in a bra and panties match. Polling her opinion on it is irrelevant. It's like asking Taker how he feels about Santino. One is serious, the other comedy. It's fine to have different roles.
You'd be bringing in talent specifically for that. Has Trish Stratus ever came out and said she felt degraded?
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Again no one would be expecting Becky Lynch to be in a bra and panties match. Polling her opinion on it is irrelevant. It's like asking Taker how he feels about Santino. One is serious, the other comedy. It's fine to have different roles.
You'd be bringing in talent specifically for that. Has Trish Stratus ever came out and said she felt degraded?
I didn't say you have to poll them, if Scarlett Bordeaux requests to have a bra and panties match, fine let her but hiring women specifically for this nonsense is going too far, now you're talking about it being a regular occurrence, now you're talking about a whole division dedicated to horny guys, now you're talking about taking tv time away from actual wrestlers to dedicate to a side show.

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Again no one would be expecting Becky Lynch to be in a bra and panties match. Polling her opinion on it is irrelevant. It's like asking Taker how he feels about Santino. One is serious, the other comedy. It's fine to have different roles.
You'd be bringing in talent specifically for that. Has Trish Stratus ever came out and said she felt degraded?
I didn't say you have to poll them, if Scarlett Bordeaux requests to have a bra and panties match, fine let her but hiring women specifically for this nonsense is going too far, now you're talking about it being a regular occurrence, now you're talking about a whole division dedicated to horny guys, now you're talking about taking tv time away from actual wrestlers to dedicate to a side show.
Taking time away from actual wrestling is the only thing that will save the industry. People don't give a sh about match quality. Never have, never will. A lot of talk about boomers yet old people are the only ones who watch wrestling nowadays. People who grew up on it and are hooked. That's not because of sex appeal but just noting how today's product struggles with the youth they're targeting.

The philosophy of we need more action, more flips, women who can wrestle too is what's killing it. That's not what mainstream wrestling has ever been. Hiring some looking girls who aren't afraid to spice it up only adds to wrestling. It would even help females out as long as WWE treats the female wrestlers as wrestlers.

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Because that’s not what they are doing. Their agenda is to put all women into the same group based off some politically motivated ideology. They completely ignore the fact that there are women who want to show off their bodies and willingly choose to do so. Whether their motivation is to feel good about themselves or just because they like the attention, at the end of the day it’s their choice. Go to any spring break once and see how many women jump at the chance to participate in bikini or wet t-shirt competitions. The white knights act like these females don’t exist or they are wrong for doing what they want with their own bodies.

Then on the flip side, they try to demonize men who enjoy watching hot women flaunt their sex appeal. Their only motive for doing this is to try and make themselves look better in the hopes that these same women will want to date them. These fucking guys are creeps of the highest level, they don’t actually care about women or their best interests, it’s just an agenda to get themselves laid.
Okay, how about this compromise-- we bring back bra and panties matches when the women superstars request they return. If the women in WWE love showing off their bodies as much as you think and don't mind not being taken seriously at a craft they've spent years honing, then it shouldn't be an issue.

If the bosses ask then the power imbalance comes in to play, people who want to say no feel like they can't without it hurting their career, we all know that's a thing in WWE, that's why Ali wrestled the last 2 Saudi shows but donated their blood money as a silent protest.
Again no one would be expecting Becky Lynch to be in a bra and panties match. Polling her opinion on it is irrelevant. It's like asking Taker how he feels about Santino. One is serious, the other comedy. It's fine to have different roles.
You'd be bringing in talent specifically for that. Has Trish Stratus ever came out and said she felt degraded?
If you dont think the chick who was on her hands and knees, barking like a dog while wearing a thong didnt feel degraded then i dont knw what to tell ya.

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Because that’s not what they are doing. Their agenda is to put all women into the same group based off some politically motivated ideology. They completely ignore the fact that there are women who want to show off their bodies and willingly choose to do so. Whether their motivation is to feel good about themselves or just because they like the attention, at the end of the day it’s their choice. Go to any spring break once and see how many women jump at the chance to participate in bikini or wet t-shirt competitions. The white knights act like these females don’t exist or they are wrong for doing what they want with their own bodies.

Then on the flip side, they try to demonize men who enjoy watching hot women flaunt their sex appeal. Their only motive for doing this is to try and make themselves look better in the hopes that these same women will want to date them. These fucking guys are creeps of the highest level, they don’t actually care about women or their best interests, it’s just an agenda to get themselves laid.
Okay, how about this compromise-- we bring back bra and panties matches when the women superstars request they return. If the women in WWE love showing off their bodies as much as you think and don't mind not being taken seriously at a craft they've spent years honing, then it shouldn't be an issue.

If the bosses ask then the power imbalance comes in to play, people who want to say no feel like they can't without it hurting their career, we all know that's a thing in WWE, that's why Ali wrestled the last 2 Saudi shows but donated their blood money as a silent protest.
Again no one would be expecting Becky Lynch to be in a bra and panties match. Polling her opinion on it is irrelevant. It's like asking Taker how he feels about Santino. One is serious, the other comedy. It's fine to have different roles.
You'd be bringing in talent specifically for that. Has Trish Stratus ever came out and said she felt degraded?
If you dont think the chick who was on her hands and knees barking like a dig while wearing a thong didnt feel degraded then i dont knw what to tell ya.
I could see how she'd find that degrading but You'd have to ask her that. So give me a quote or move on. Because it's entertainment and many were put in awkward situations. We're talking about an industry where 90% of the roster stuck their face up a 450 pound man's @.
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Okay, how about this compromise-- we bring back bra and panties matches when the women superstars request they return. If the women in WWE love showing off their bodies as much as you think and don't mind not being taken seriously at a craft they've spent years honing, then it shouldn't be an issue.

If the bosses ask then the power imbalance comes in to play, people who want to say no feel like they can't without it hurting their career, we all know that's a thing in WWE, that's why Ali wrestled the last 2 Saudi shows but donated their blood money as a silent protest.
Fine, perfect compromise.

If Scarlett Boudreaux wants to come in with her smokeshow gimmick or Mandy Rose would rather get over on her looks instead of trying to rely on her non-existent wrestling skills, they should have the option.

If others feel itís beneath them and want to focus on wrestling, fine.

Thereís an audience that will appreciate both.

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If you dont think the chick who was on her hands and knees, barking like a dog while wearing a thong didnt feel degraded then i dont knw what to tell ya.
I donít know, have you personally spoken to Trish about it?

Iíve never heard her comment on it and she doesnít appear to hold any ill will towards the company.

My guess she was approached with the idea, the storyline was an evil old man trying to humiliate his mistress by making her bark like a dog, it made sense for the story and she probably agreed it.

Considering she sold lingerie calendars where she was in erotic positions with another female model prior to her signing with WWE, Iím going to say she doesnít have a problem with showing some skin. Just a hunch.

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Only sad basement dwellers would want those matches back.
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