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post #1 of 12 (permalink) Old 10-19-2019, 11:46 AM Thread Starter
 
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In ring styles: uniqueness and small details

Previous generations top guys, e.g. Flair, Hogan, Taker, Shawn Michaels, Rock Austin, all seemed to have had iconic ways of moving round the ring, unique to them. You could watch a blacked out version of rock throwing punches or austin stomping a mudhole and know it was them. Even lesser guys like Road Dogg moved in a unique way. Their style of movement, particularly in the little things, fitted their character and enriched their persona.

Now, with a few exceptions, most performers seem cookie cutter in the way they run the ropes, throw punches, sell moves etc. Wondering if this is a neglected area and missing component in the modern era. Thoughts?
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Re: In ring styles: uniqueness and small details

This may sound like an odd criticism, but a lot of wrestling these days is not just homogenized (superkicks/suicide dives galore) but it looks too choreographed and crisp for its own good.

I like it when moves come out in a way that goes with the flow. Not every punch is perfect, sometimes it'll look wild and sloppy but it sells the illusion of the fight going on. Nowadays after a move is done, it's like the wrestlers reset themselves back to doing the next one in line and don't have any good back and forth moments because it looks almost robotic. I personally detest when things go from one spot to the next with no transitional movement between. Throw some knees in there to work the guy over or something, not just lead one another around like your opponent is suddenly complacent.
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Yeah good point. You mean like Rollins' suplex, falcon arrow combo? Impressive, definitely, but becomes more like ballet or something. Wild flurries of punches used to get the crowd going more.
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Re: In ring styles: uniqueness and small details

My post on same thing 2015!
https://www.wrestlingforum.com/gener...efore-now.html
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This may sound like an odd criticism, but a lot of wrestling these days is not just homogenized (superkicks/suicide dives galore) but it looks too choreographed and crisp for its own good.

I like it when moves come out in a way that goes with the flow. Not every punch is perfect, sometimes it'll look wild and sloppy but it sells the illusion of the fight going on. Nowadays after a move is done, it's like the wrestlers reset themselves back to doing the next one in line and don't have any good back and forth moments because it looks almost robotic. I personally detest when things go from one spot to the next with no transitional movement between. Throw some knees in there to work the guy over or something, not just lead one another around like your opponent is suddenly complacent.
This is spot on, it's way too many spots, way too choreographed, makes everything look super fake and plastic.
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Re: In ring styles: uniqueness and small details

There's way too much input on the athletic performance and less of care in the way a wrestler develops a character. Because, well, developing characters is not just the promoter/booker's job. That's why, for example, NWA Powerrr seemed like a huge breath of fresh hair to me. When, in fact, it is just pro wrestling stories being properly told.

However, the current formula of coreography over character seems to be working, so... bad news for us, that love more than just the athletic part of pro wrestling.
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Ha! Yeah that's what i was trying to say. 4 years on, no difference.
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Lesnar and Orton stand out the way you are implying in moving a certain way, Yeah a lot of today's performers run on choreography though it doesn't bother me as much, They hit their moves and the crowd still pops for it so that uniqueness though important isn't a write off for those who look and move the same way.
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Hey @Soul Rex here's another thread discussing match quality and preference, and although i agree and approve for the 100 distaste in today's midget wrestling i still detest discussions on wrestling matches in general and everyone else should for the benefit of wrestling in general..

Soul Rex please explain as you did why Giant Gonzalez vs Taker at Mania 9 should not be viewed any differently than even the revered HBK vs Taker at Mania 25.. you're explanation was a masterclass in human thinking 2which everyone would.benefit from, plus it cannot be debunked, defeated or disputed and should be the proper template on how everyone views wrestling matches.. plus if one disagrees they may have the right to do so but they will be objectively wrong in every discussion and will always lose the argument like that guy with the jeff hardy avatar.. he was so wrong on all fronts defending that one match should be viewed different from another.
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Re: In ring styles: uniqueness and small details

I always loved Neville for looking pretty unique in how he moves himself around the ring. Ambroses punch/chop thing wasn't exactly this amazing move or anything but it added personality to the character.

I agree that guys need to be more tuned into the little things that set them apart. Bray is pretty good at it. I loved how Rock would basically bitch slap and then talk to his hand for the final strong blow.
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