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King of the Ring a success or nah?

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#1 ·
Regardless of how you feel about the winner do you think KotR was a success? There was some iffy booking but almost all of the matches were good-great but I know there's a large section of this forum that doesn't give a crap about in-ring action so is that alone enough to consider it a success? Do you feel like they did a good enough job of making it feel important factoring in that the finals weren't on ppv nor was the main event of Raw? Did they make any new stars or at least open your eyes to somebody you had been sleeping on? If you're somebody upset by the outcome did it ruin the entire thing for you?

IMO I thought the tournament was great, I didn't skip any of the matches even the ones with people I'm not a fan of. The only thing that really bothered me was the fuckery behind Elias' win and the interjection of Shane. I'm good with Corbin winning although I would have preferred a face winning just because I don't want to see the 942785th king gimmick. I feel like by doing that the whole tournament became an excuse to give Corbin a new gimmick instead of it being an accolade on it's own like Royal Rumble and the G1 Climax used to be.

I hope they do it again next year but it won't be about the gimmick.
 
#4 ·
I think winning and "saving" the WWE universe from King Corbin might have gotten Gable over. Personally I thought that Buddy Murphy should've won since he had the most momentum going into the tournament, people went from not knowing his name one week to chanting it the next. If he had won WWE would've had a new star, especially if he beat Corbin in the finals. But of course WWE didn't capitalize, he lost in the first round and got sent back to the catering club SMDH.
 
#5 ·
Thought it was bland, having it on a episode of raw makes it feel insignificant, it hasnt done anything for Corbin character, for me king of the ring only works when there is a PPV dedicated to it because it actually makes the tournament mean something rather than just a throw away tournament to fill the TV shows and more importantly when you have a PPV event based on it it can really legitimise wrestler if they have to wrestle a few times in one night, look at when Bret, owen and stone cold won it, I prefer Bret's king of the ring tournament as he had to go through 3 matches in one night to win it.
 
#8 ·
The problems with having the tournament over the course of one night is first audiences have significantly lower attention spans than they did in the 80's and 90's, with no stories or promos/vignettes to break up the be monotony audiences are guaranteed to check out. Second, there's nobody over enough that audiences would be okay with seeing wrestle 3 times in a night and there would be 2 of them, plus the 2 semi finals losers who would wrestle twice that night. I think that all makes for the most bored, disinterested crowd we've ever seen.
 
#6 ·
My quick thoughts: It was better than I expected with some good wrestling along the way. Final should have been co-main at Clash of Champions if they really wanted it to mean more. KOTR is usually remembered by how the champion is booked afterwards, so we will have to see. I just fear they will turn Corbin into King Corbin complete with crown and cape, and that's all there will be to his character and next few feuds.
 
#7 · (Edited)
No, I thought the whole point of the King Of The Ring was it going to help the new guys. Question for you did it really help Buddy Murphy, Ali or Chad Gable?

Yeah Buddy Murphy did have 2 good matches. Guess What, I still don't give a fuck about him.

Chad Gable want to the final. Great he didn't saying anything interesting when he was winning. "I'm glad I won the match and I am going to fight again next week" Oh thanks Gable, how fucking mind blowing.
 
#12 ·
Regardless of how you feel about the winner do you think KotR was a success? There was some iffy booking but almost all of the matches were good-great but I know there's a large section of this forum that doesn't give a crap about in-ring action so is that alone enough to consider it a success? Do you feel like they did a good enough job of making it feel important factoring in that the finals weren't on ppv nor was the main event of Raw? Did they make any new stars or at least open your eyes to somebody you had been sleeping on? If you're somebody upset by the outcome did it ruin the entire thing for you?

IMO I thought the tournament was great, I didn't skip any of the matches even the ones with people I'm not a fan of. The only thing that really bothered me was the fuckery behind Elias' win and the interjection of Shane. I'm good with Corbin winning although I would have preferred a face winning just because I don't want to see the 942785th king gimmick. I feel like by doing that the whole tournament became an excuse to give Corbin a new gimmick instead of it being an accolade on it's own like Royal Rumble and the G1 Climax used to be.

I hope they do it again next year but it won't be about the gimmick.
No, it doesn't feel important to me but that's nothing to do with it not being on PPV or in the main event of RAW. The main reason is that it's all rather inconsequential really. If you win the Royal Rumble, you get a title shot at Wrestlemania; what do you get if you win KOTR? Bragging rights? Do they mean much when your competition was the likes of Cedric Alexander and Chad Gable? We're not talking Seth Rollins here.

I'm glad they held the matches over a number of weeks rather than dedicate an entire episode of RAW and/or Smackdown to it. While that might have meant it was over and done with more quickly, I'd rather not have to skip an entire episode of RAW or SD because of it.
 
#13 ·
It needs to be a PPV event, multiple matches for those advancing. That way, you can construct the brackets with both big-name stars and upcoming ones. Half of the bracket can be guys like Rollins, Braun, Styles, etc...and the other half can be guys like Gable, Murphy, etc.

It was fun this year, but it won't be memorable. They won't make the victory significant, either, because they didn't wrap any kind of reward around it to begin with. Didn't even show Corbin sitting on the throne, no interview, nothing.
 
#16 ·
The matches were consistently good, maybe even great. But what they actually *do* with the tournament is what ultimately matters in the long run, so I can't call this a success. They gave the crown to the one person in the tournament already getting a push who doesn't need another gimmick, already has plenty of heat, and just really doesn't benefit any further from the win.

They could've made Gable into a bonafide midcard fighting babyface. Baron has enough heat that beating him actually means something. Baron's win means nothing, and it's only a matter of time before "King Corbin" is dropped and he's just Baron Corbin again. Or, true to form, he'll just be Corbin.

I can't really call the tournament a success when I don't think that its result will matter whatsoever in six months.
 
#21 ·
The KOTR idea is good, and the matches involved were good too. BUT; The final should have main evented some PPV.. Maybe one of the minor pointless ones, but still a PPV..Heck, make the whole KOTR a ppv, where the wrestlers might have to fight more than once as they win their qualifiers.
And suddenly changing the participants, inserting Shane, even though he lost -BAD idea.
Having Boring Corbin win.. Yet another BAD idea. Drew, Roode, Joe, Cesaro.. So many names that could have benefitted from a win, and a follow-up storyline. But WWE decided to go with the one person NOBODY wanted to win :(
 
#22 ·
I mean to honestly answer this we need to see what happens to Corbin next. Do they make him a joke or do they continue his hot run from this tournament.

But right now?

Baron Corbin got to show how good of an in ring work he is. It gave Chad Gable a spotlight. It gave Cedric a spotlight. It gave Ali a spotlight. Andrade, Ricochet, Drew, Joe, and several others got to have good to great matches. It featured matches that matter, matches with stakes involved.

So overall I think the tournament was a success (for now) and something I hope they do annually now (again, I think that right now).
 
#28 ·
How did they fuck it up?

It was obvious Corbin was winning given he just mainevented 3 ppvs in row early summer, pinned Angle clean on his retirement and was the main guy raw was built around this time last year.

So it was a vehicle to get Corbin over clearly. Unlike majority of KOTR the winners haven't looked impressive in winning be it Mabel, Billy Gunn, HHH, Shamrock, Edge, Sheamus, Barrett while others didn't need it ie Brock, Bret.

Corbin's had the best matches if his career last 3-4 weeks and now looks a million bucks. He won a hard fought excellent match clean so worthy winner in fans eyes.
 
#27 ·
It depends on what they're planning for Corbin in all honesty.
 
#29 ·
I was initially impressed with the opening round tournament brackets for about 90% of them but I lost interest after the first round when it became apparent who was going to win.

So no I was not impressed, what could have been a very competitive tournament bringing various talents some spotlight to impress and win over the audience became just another angle to big up one of Vince's mediocre favourites.
 
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