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post #1 of 56 (permalink) Old 09-17-2019, 02:32 PM Thread Starter
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WWE has completely thrown away the notion of "qualifying" or "earning" a title shot.

I mean WTF happened? WWE has gotten THAT lazy. At first it was just that WWE was having champions get pinned by the challengers on free TV before the PPV to earn a shot, which was stupid in itself, but now they don't even do THAT much. They don't even care to build anything anymore or give us a reason as to WHY someone is getting a title match. It just happens at the snap of Vince's fingers now. Out of nowhere. Just in the last 90-120 days, these are the talent that have gotten title shots for absolutely nothing.

Ember Moon against Bayley
Charlotte against Bayley
Sasha Banks against Becky
Brock Lesnar in his entire run
The Fiend against Rollins
Randy Orton against Kofi
Braun Strowman against Rollins
Lacey Evans against Becky
Natalya against Becky
Samoa Joe against Kofi
Cedric against AJ
Miz against Nakamura
Lesnar against Kofi

I mean holy shit what happened to earning a title shot or building SOMETHING? ANYTHING? They have completely forsaken everything in this company and are just booking matches left and right with no rhyme or reasoning behind them.




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post #2 of 56 (permalink) Old 09-17-2019, 02:34 PM
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Re: WWE has completely thrown away the notion of "qualifying" or "earning" a title shot.

Natalya and Lacey Evans won qualifying matches if I remember correctly.

But yeah, this is terribly lazy booking. It doesn't help that half of the roster is buried for no reason either.
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Re: WWE has completely thrown away the notion of "qualifying" or "earning" a title shot.

Kofi challenged Randy.

Bayley challenged Ember.

Lacey won a qualifier.

Natalya won a qualifier.

Joe & Kofi and Sasha & Becky were feuds that became personal really fast, especially the latter.

I don't have any issue with a title match simply being announced from time to time. Sometimes the whole "#1 contender" match setups get tedious, boring and predictable. It's not the end of the world if sometimes we're just told, "This is the match that's happening, get on board or don't, we don't care."
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Re: WWE has completely thrown away the notion of "qualifying" or "earning" a title shot.

This is what happens when you have to many ppvs close to each other. You gotta start building immediately to the next one so they said to make it real fast (as an example) lets just have Bayley just choose Ember to face at SummerSlam!
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Re: WWE has completely thrown away the notion of "qualifying" or "earning" a title shot.

Wins and losses don't matter, some people like that booking, I don't know why, but it is what it is. Miz getting a title shot at clash of champions was so fucking retarded, he literally got eliminated in the KOTR tournament in the FIRST ROUND CLEAN! After that they announced he got an IC title shot, WTF?

It makes absolutely no sense. Agree with you 100% OP, although in the case of Cedric, AT LEAST he pinned the champion in a tag match, that should warrant a title shot.
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Re: WWE has completely thrown away the notion of "qualifying" or "earning" a title shot.

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Kofi challenged Randy.

Bayley challenged Ember.

Lacey won a qualifier.

Natalya won a qualifier.

Joe & Kofi and Sasha & Becky were feuds that became personal really fast, especially the latter.

I don't have any issue with a title match simply being announced from time to time. Sometimes the whole "#1 contender" match setups get tedious, boring and predictable. It's not the end of the world if sometimes we're just told, "This is the match that's happening, get on board or don't, we don't care."
And if it makes sense aka coming off a big win fine that is OK but some of the title matches this year have been random as fuck. What did Miz do to earn a shot? There should be a logical reason someone gets a title shot. Build people up to it and makes wins matter. It is why I am looking forward to AEW where it seems wins and losses matter



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Re: WWE has completely thrown away the notion of "qualifying" or "earning" a title shot.

Oh and some of these were logical, Randy Orton came off of beating Triple H and then pinning Kofi in a tag match, that should warrant you a title shot. I don't think there NEEDS to be set #1 contenders matches, but guys should at the very least be on winning streaks, and if you do have a #1 contenders match, people who just lost recently shouldn't be a part of the match. Fiend destroyed a former champion in under 4 minutes, so again, he was a logical top contender. UFC doesn't always have set title eliminator fights, usually the title shot goes to who is deemed the top contender and/or ready to fight.

Fucking Sami Zayn lost like every match he was in this year, but was recently in a #1 contenders match for the US title, that made no sense.

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Re: WWE has completely thrown away the notion of "qualifying" or "earning" a title shot.

I don't think all title shots should be earned. Sometimes it's ok for someone relevant/over enough to show up and simply say "im coming for you". Fiend with Rollins is fine, with all the hype/excitement with his new character. Sasha with Becky was fine for example too, after big return

In some cases though - absolutely there should be more of that
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Re: WWE has completely thrown away the notion of "qualifying" or "earning" a title shot.

Short cycles and lazy booking don't mix. If you are going to have such short cycles the booking needs to be TIGHT. If not tight at least a hell of a lot tighter than it is. There needs to be some sort of metric that determines whether or not a wrestler is deserving of a title match. It doesn't have to be as obvious as a number one contender's match or pinning the champion in a non-title match(why the fuck are you giving away your big matches for free anyway?) but you also shouldn't be able to be away for four months and beat the champ up with a chair and somehow be rewarded with a title match either. There just has to be a better way or else everything is just force-fed nonsense. There is an abundance of lazy booking in WWE it isn't just to do with the title matches either. Take the upcoming HIAC PPV there is already two HIAC matches announced and neither feud warrants a HIAC match. One feud just started and the other has already seen the babyface get over on the heel and has no reason to continue to occur in the first place. It's as if the only reasoning for the HIAC matches are because the show is called HELL IN A CELL. It's fucking ridiculous and lazy. Don't get me wrong I like the cell matches I just wish that gimmick/stipulation matches were actually earned these days instead of themed PPV's. The Rumble and MITB and Survivor Series are fine but there doesn't have to be PPV's like extreme rules or Hell In a Cell.

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I don't think all title shots should be earned. Sometimes it's ok for someone relevant/over enough to show up and simply say "im coming for you". Fiend with Rollins is fine, with all the hype/excitement with his new character. Sasha with Becky was fine for example too, after big return

In some cases though - absolutely there should be more of that
You can't just hand title shots out because someone came back from an absence. It's lazy and shortsighted. It literally screams no other option. If the return is big and the performer is important you can build to a feud in a better and more interesting manner. Same with a hot act that had done little to nothing other than vignettes and attacks on random people(most of whom are inconsequential). If the act is worth a damn it doesn't need to be rushed to a big match or title shot. It needs to grow and actually be shown to worth a damn first. This rushing into shit kills acts. If Fiend wins that's cool but since he has done nothing of consequence other than that one thing, the title becomes the only thing that keeps it going and once it's gone it's done and you have to rebuild the character because it hasn't been proven sustainable on its own. What Wyatt really needed(needs) is a solid run as an act in the upper midcard to solidify the act itself. He can win every match and feud he's in like original Undertaker because then you have built its mythology enough that it can survive the losses when they happen(and they will happen eventually no matter what)
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