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re: Which females on the main roster can hang with the 4HW in terms of in-ring ability?

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There's a disturbing lack of bazzler in this thread. It's like people don't want to see her snap Charlottes arm
She sucks. I thought she was good at first because Kairi is so incredible she made that worthless trash look above average. But Shayna has sucked the life out of every match she was in, not really average matches, bad bad match quality 95% every-time she wrestled anyone but Kairi. I’d rather watch Liv in the ring than Shayna.

Also OP mentioned main roster women... only a few named Io, as she is one of the best female wrestlers in the world.


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She sucks. I thought she was good at first because Kairi is so incredible she made that worthless trash look above average. But Shayna has sucked the life out of every match she was in, not really average matches, bad bad match quality 95% every-time she wrestled anyone but Kairi. Id rather watch Liv in the ring than Shayna.

Also OP mentioned main roster women... only a few named Io, as she is one of the best female wrestlers in the world.
I agree but appreciate the visual of the 4 horse women getting their arms stomped on. It's going to take really good booking for me to appreciate them. I really only like Becky at this point cause she made Asuka look like a huge star.
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Asuka and Ember Moon come to mind first if it's purely In Ring Workrate.
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re: Which females on the main roster can hang with the 4HW in terms of in-ring ability?

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There's a disturbing lack of bazzler in this thread. It's like people don't want to see her snap Charlottes arm

Whilst that would be a sight, I think the overall census (myself included) is that Shayna isn't good enough to step to the '4HW'

She's a great character and is one of the best at playing the dis-likable, bully heel. My issue with her is that she's not the most mobile in the ring. She can barely run and run the ropes in case her knees explode and this leaves her opponents having to work around her all the time, giving us the same boring match most of the time.
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re: Which females on the main roster can hang with the 4HW in terms of in-ring ability?

Asuka, of course. Armbar Moo and Kawaii are correct answers, too. And more coming from NXT.
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re: Which females on the main roster can hang with the 4HW in terms of in-ring ability?

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From NXT I got Shayna and Bianca on par with the 4HW. Io above them with Asuka and Kairi.

Rhea and Toni, possibly Kay Lee on par at least too.
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re: Which females on the main roster can hang with the 4HW in terms of in-ring ability?

Well, grouping the main roster women in tiers I'd have them like this...

Tier 1
Charlotte Flair, Asuka, Sasha Banks, Becky Lynch, Kairi, Bayley

Tier 2
Ember Moon, Mickie James, Ronda Rousey, Natalya, Ruby Riott

Tier 3
Sarah Logan, Alexa Bliss, Sonya Deville, Naomi, Liv Morgan

Tier 4
Nia Jax, Lacey Evans, Nikki Cross, Mandy Rose, Carmella, Tamina, Dana Brooke, Peyton, Billie

I'd say that the only ones on a similar level as the 4 horsewomen in the ring are Asuka and Kairi. Ember and Mickie are good as is Ruby but they don't quite reach that level. Ronda certainly has the potential to do so but we'll see when(and if) she returns how she continues developing.
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re: Which females on the main roster can hang with the 4HW in terms of in-ring ability?

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She sucks. I thought she was good at first because Kairi is so incredible she made that worthless trash look above average. But Shayna has sucked the life out of every match she was in, not really average matches, bad bad match quality 95% every-time she wrestled anyone but Kairi. Id rather watch Liv in the ring than Shayna.

Also OP mentioned main roster women... only a few named Io, as she is one of the best female wrestlers in the world.
Oh please! She brings realism to the ring and while not the best there, it suits her gimmick, although I like her technical style. She has presence, does decent promo and is a great heel.

She would be a breathe of fresh air on the main roster.
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re: Which females on the main roster can hang with the 4HW in terms of in-ring ability?

Asuka is so way above them it's not even funny, a on form Asuka is up there with the likes of Bryan and AJ. Kairi on top form is probably better or equal of Sasha, who I believe is the best in ring worker out of the 4 HW. Ember and Ruby Riott would be two to hang with them. Besides that not too many others imo.

Io would be on the same tier as Asuka.

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re: Which females on the main roster can hang with the 4HW in terms of in-ring ability?

Shayna is a mat hold type. And a very slow one at that, so she ain't going to mix well with the more acrobatic or athletic type (basically all the opponents she's faced on NXT minus Kairi). She need a babyface seller type (Kairi, and this is only a feeling, but Liv could be another one) to go around her interacting with her offense without making her come across as slow.

She should also fare better against the more mat and strike based wrestlers a la Asuka, Becky, Sonya or Ronda AS LONG AS it is a back and forth deal where they trade offense and not a one sided match where she gets to ragdoll them. As I said, only babyface sellers for that.
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