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Is 2019 WWE's rock bottom?

Well it's almost August, SummerSlam will be here in less than a month and the hot topics of this forum involve people commenting about Becky Lynch and Seth Rollings relationship, their social media banters and dodgy merchandise.

The most prestigious titles are held by a part-timer(again) and a B+ wrestler that many don't seem to care about.

There are no more money in bank briefcases to be cashed in, the vast majority of the storylines seem stalled and yes women's wrestling seems to be losing steam.

WWE has been declining for many years, but 2019 feels particularly bad.

Can it get any worse than this? What would be worse than this? How bad it will be when we get to the Royal Rumble?
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Re: Is 2019 WWE's rock bottom?

I didnt really think things could get worse in around 2008, how wrong I was.

I wouldnt be surprised in 2029 if wwe is doing "chess in a cell" match with undertaker vs HHH for the final time.

I'm giving it until the end of the year, if things don't improve (they likely won't) then I'm leaving my wrestling fandom in the 2010s. I only really post here for the laughs. I havnt watched wwe hardly at all this year.
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Re: Is 2019 WWE's rock bottom?

This is not as bad as 2008-2009 in my opinion. The highs we're probably higher, but the lows we're definitely lower.

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NO! Rock bottom was Wrestlemania 13. Yes, perhaps the most iconic and important match in the company's history took place there (Bret vs. Stone Cold) but it was the lowest rated Wrestlemania ever and the company was struggling financially and firmly behind WCW. The decline started after Hogan left for good, but got sharper and sharper (especially throughout the horrid 1995) amd peaked at WM 13. The rise of Austin helped them begin to go back in the right direction throughout the rest of 1997 and 1998 saw them get back on top.

Yes, WWE is in a funk, but they have billion dollar TV deals, a company owned network, and are still far and away the top wrestling organization in the world. The product sucks and there are no real stars outside of aging part-timers, but they are solid financially and no other organization at the moment is a threat. AEW may be over time, but they have a LONG way to go.
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NO! Rock bottom was Wrestlemania 13. Yes, perhaps the most iconic and important match in the company's history took place there (Bret vs. Stone Cold) but it was the lowest rated Wrestlemania ever and the company was struggling financially and firmly behind WCW. The decline started after Hogan left for good, but got sharper and sharper (especially throughout the horrid 1995) amd peaked at WM 13. The rise of Austin helped them begin to go back in the right direction throughout the rest of 1997 and 1998 saw them get back on top.

Yes, WWE is in a funk, but they have billion dollar TV deals, a company owned network, and are still far and away the top wrestling organization in the world. The product sucks and there are no real stars outside of aging part-timers, but they are solid financially and no other organization at the moment is a threat. AEW may be over time, but they have a LONG way to go.

Um, OP was referring to rock bottom as being post WCW/Boom period. You took his question entirely too literally when it was obvious what he was asking..

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Re: Is 2019 WWE's rock bottom?

WWE is eventually going to put a womens title on Lacey Evans, so yes, it can get worse.

I refuse to believe Vince has a limit that is beneath him. I can easily see WWE in 5 years being headlined by Lacey Evans, Mojo Rawley, Ricochet, Baron Corbin, Lars Sullivan, Elias, Finn Balor, etc. Easily.



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Re: Is 2019 WWE's rock bottom?

i think the product is overall better than it was in the tail end of the RA era. you can't tell me king booker and great khali were better champs than seth rollins.

plus wwe no longer needs musclebound monsters to be the main attraction. skinnier/worse-looking guys like kofi and bryan are popular as big-time stars, and the women's product is way better than the divas era (mostly thanks to alexa) with women even headlining wm.

better booking for stars like KO or elias, less mcmahon air time and making raw 2 hours again would solve a lot of issues.

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Re: Is 2019 WWE's rock bottom?

It is only going to get worse
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Rock Bottom?

Well for me personally, I’d have to go with a big fat yes! It’s never been this bad, never!!!!!

I started watching WWF in the mid 90s so grew up with the greats like Austin, HBK, Bret, Rock, Taker and so many others so to see the drop in quality and creativity is truly astounding! It’s like they’re not even the same company anymore. I mean it’s really quite unbelievable how bad it has become in comparison to what it used to be many years ago.

What’s worse to me though is that there is so much potential there to have a truly awesome product that is edgy, exciting, fun and that pushes the creative envelope but instead we as fans have to endure this boring, stale and lazy product that lacks any kind of passion, creativity, desire to improve and ability to listen to their fanbase.

The roster is stacked with potential but is just utterly wasted because an old, out of touch, racist has been of a man doesn’t think they’re quite good enough for his “Sports Entertainment”.

Then there’s Stephanie spreading her PR corporate BS everywhere to score herself brownie points with the big media moguls and SJW crowd. Triple H forcing himself into every major popular angle going to stay relevant. A crippled Undertaker and broken down Goldberg returning to collect their big fat Saudi pay checks whilst almost killing each other, awful champions like Rollins, Kingston and Lynch, tarp running riot all over the place, dead crowds barley managing to chant “you deserve it”, no creativity, no effort, no cleverness, no desire to create new stars, constantly relying on 50+ year old men to draw a rating, no long term planning, no structure! It’s all just pretty hopeless in all honesty and there’s just fuck all there now to get excited about!

It’s more fun and enjoyable to shit on the WWE than actually watch it. Really and truly, the only enjoyment I get out of this product is fantasy booking, watching old stuff from the past, watching botch videos, shitting on how bad it all really is and perving on the women!

That’s really about it and what’s worrying is that it’s just going to get worse, just wait and see...
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Re: Is 2019 WWE's rock bottom?

No, maybe it's personal preference but things aren't that bad. Sure things could be better but they could be worse.

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