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post #1 of 53 (permalink) Old 05-17-2019, 05:05 PM Thread Starter
 
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Was Paige really that great? Did she really "change the game?"

I never was a really a fan of Paige. Now before you go probably label me a hater or clueless on talent, I get not being a fan of someone and still recognizing their talent. To me though...Paige just wasn't that great. I cant recall one single memorable promo from her. Probably the only promo that stands out is "This is my house" and thats it.

Also this whole Paige being credited for "Changing The Game" or starting the "women's revolution" I dont see it. The whole Anti Diva gimmick was just that, a gimmick. Now maybe she doesn't want to be portrayed as a diva but if you dont want to be about tits and ass why is your top half ring gear consist of only a bra showing plenty of skin?

When it comes to the women's revolution only one name comes to mind or at least kick started it and thats AJ Lee.

I couldn't recall Paige's Raw debut. I saw the movie first then went on yotube to watch the real debut. To me it was lackluster.

I dont know. I like to think I can still recognize talent even if im not a fan and yes Paige is somewhat talented but revolutionary? Not to me
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Re: Was Paige really that great? Did she really "change the game?"

The reason Paige gets credit for this is because WWE considers Paige vs Emma at the first NXT Takeover as the storyline start of the "womens revolution"...and they didn't care that much about Emma.
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Re: Was Paige really that great? Did she really "change the game?"

Her feud with Emma in NXT predated the Horsewomen, and was the first time a women's match in WWE got any real hype and spotlight since the days of Lita and Trish.

She was pretty good, but nowhere near Asuka or Charlotte level in the ring. Her mic work wasn't very good at all, ironically it's gotten a lot better since she retired.


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Inb4 arguments of AJ Lee was the predecessor to the 4HW.

I believe Paige was supposed to be much bigger than she actually was since she was the first NXT star of the women's division to be built up as the up and coming future onwards once she was brought up to the MR, She won the Divas title from Lee on her debut night on Raw and I thought we had a new star on the horizon, Fast forward months later and she's playing second fiddle to the Bellas........yep.

She wasn't great in the ring and was fairly decent on the Mic but her appeal was that she was Anti establishment in opposition to your typical divas back then and she had the perfect look and confidence to go with it, Then along comes Becky, Charlotte, Sasha, and to a lesser extent Bayley, Where does Paige really fit in now?

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Re: Was Paige really that great? Did she really "change the game?"

I would say she was really good even tho not on par with the likes of Charlotte, Sasha or Asuka but I do have her at #10 on my favorite women of all time. I think if she had not let herself get derailed with all the personal issues and had been able to remain focused on the wrestling she could have reached a higher level than what she had done up to that point and I could see her as key player of the division today had her career not come to an end due to her unfortunate injury. She certainly had all the tools to do so.
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Re: Was Paige really that great? Did she really "change the game?"

Her and Emma's match at NXT Arrival did open the door for the 4 Horsewomen, so there's that. (If that match sucked, it would have been a long time before they got another chance)

Her time on Main Roster was vastly underwhelming though.
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Re: Was Paige really that great? Did she really "change the game?"

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Inb4 arguments of AJ Lee was the predecessor to the 4HW.
She really was, though. She was more popular and sold more merch, and that was on the main roster, not in NXT. It is what it is.

Paige had next to no impact. She came and she went. She's more known for her porn video with those two cucks than for anything she did in the ring.
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Re: Was Paige really that great? Did she really "change the game?"

I think she was a fav from HHH until she started dating Alberto, that's all.
Of course I think she has a lot of charisma that no she should be pursuing other things outside wrestling... She is a good actress I think, she did it well in that movie with Miz.
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Re: Was Paige really that great? Did she really "change the game?"

At one point, she did generate buzz from her background, having such a unique look, and her "anti-diva" character. A lot of it was hype though, as people were more into the idea of her.
However, the stuff she did with NXT, along with Emma and Summer Rae, did a lot to get the women's division going that lead to the "women's evolution". While things really took off with the four horsewomen, but they wouldn't have a platform to take off from if those three hadn't built it.
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Re: Was Paige really that great? Did she really "change the game?"

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At one point, she did generate buzz from her background, having such a unique look, and her "anti-diva" character. A lot of it was hype though, as people were more into the idea of her.
However, the stuff she did with NXT, along with Emma and Summer Rae, did a lot to get the women's division going that lead to the "women's evolution". While things really took off with the four horsewomen, but they wouldn't have a platform to take off from if those three hadn't built it.
I disagree, the problem was Vince and once she got to the main roster, Vince like he does everyone, ruined her.

If they would have booked Paige on the main roster ike they did in NXT she would have been even bigger. But Vince doesnt know how to properly book anyone anymore. Its why when everyone loses all their steam once they get to main roster. Vince just does not know what to do with any of them.
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