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It won't have any impact at all. AEW is an indy fed full of nobodies. It'll be about as harmful to WWE as ROH is.
LOL The WWE top talent at one time were "indy nobodies". Seth Rollins, Daniel Bryan, AJ Styles, Joe, Cesaro, Ambrose and Punk (when they were still there)

Also in the past the biggest WWF stars were WCW nobodies, Austin, HHH, Taker, Edge, Jericho, etc etc

AEW will know how to make their top talent stars unlike Vince always pissing away when their talent get over and ruin them
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Their roster is absolute shit right now so unless they sign some people here in the near future the ratings will probably be good for the first few shows because of the hype and then drop to Impact numbers within the 2nd month maybe 3rd.
What Impact numbers do you mean? The 1.3M that they once drew, or the 10K that they got when they premiered on Pursuit?
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What Impact numbers do you mean? The 1.3M that they once drew, or the 10K that they got when they premiered on Pursuit?
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People said the same thing about WCW when they said they were going head to head with WWF.

AEW could overtake WWE in ratings easily if they are on a big network ike TNT.

It didnt even take WCW that long to get a ratings win over WWF once Intro started. It was only a few months.

And once AEW starts getting more WWE stars, its going to be even bigger.

Ambrose is probably going there as Moxley. Revivia and Club are def. going there once their contract are up. Imagine of Punk signed with them.
WCW was 25 years ago. The amount of wrestling fans in the US is probably less than a 3rd of what is was back then.

I'm just being real and not expect 1.5 million viewers weekly for a wrestling show in 2019. If WWE (a billion dollar brand) is only getting 2 million, the new guys on the block ain't getting 1.5 million.

TNA, the closest competitor from the previous decade, only managed around a million viewers for most of their run as the number 2 promotion, and that was on a major channel as well in Spike.

RAW 2010: 5 million viewers
TNA 2010: 1ish million viewers

That was in 2010. It's almost 2020.

RAW 2019: 2 million viewers
AEW with the same ratings as TNA: 400,000 viewers

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Re: Will WWE counterprogram AEW?

It should be the opposite, AEW should counter program WWE. Go for the beast while they are wounded. Take their core audience and dwindle their ratings further, sabotaging the Fox deal. It's what I would do from a business perspective, and WWE has never been this weak before in this particular part of the business, albeit they have plenty of avenues to go for recovery.

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Re: What impact will AEW have on WWE in the short and term term?

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It won't have any impact at all. AEW is an indy fed full of nobodies. It'll be about as harmful to WWE as ROH is.
Indy feds aren't owned by billionaires.
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WCW was 25 years ago. The amount of wrestling fans in the US is probably less than a 3rd of what is was back then.

I'm just being real and not expect 1.5 million viewers weekly for a wrestling show in 2019. If WWE (a billion dollar brand) is only getting 2 million, the new guys on the block ain't getting 1.5 million.

TNA, the closest competitor from the previous decade, only managed around a million viewers for most of their run as the number 2 promotion, and that was on a major channel as well in Spike.

RAW 2010: 5 million viewers
TNA 2010: 1ish million viewers

That was in 2010. It's almost 2020.

RAW 2019: 2 million viewers
AEW with the same ratings as TNA: 400,000 viewers
You may be right. But here's my thought.

RAW's audience has eroded heavily. The 25th Anniversary RAW a little over a year ago drew 4.5M viewers. That probably represents the peak potential audience - or close to it - for wrestling. A week later it fell to 3.3M, and flash forward to now and the show is struggling to stay above 2M.

Even if no current WWE viewer watches AEW, there's a significantly sized lapsed audience out there. Don't underestimate AEW's potential.

Also consider the dynamic. WWE of 2010 still had a bit of a balance of legacy stars (HBK, Taker, HHH), more established newer stars (Cena, Orton, Batista, Edge, Miz), and some exciting younger talent (CM Punk, Legacy, Nexus). TNA was had a base of younger talent that was misused (Styles, Roode, Storm, Joe, Abyss) and a host of past their prime stars (Hogan, Flair, Foley, Hall, Nash, Kid).

WWE of 2019 has a very flat playing field. Quite simply put, it's Roman Reigns and everyone else. All AEW has to do is come to the plate with Jon Moxley and CM Punk, and then use superior storytelling to establish the other talented wrestlers on their roster.

Basically, I'm bullish on their initial prospects.
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You may be right. But here's my thought.

RAW's audience has eroded heavily. The 25th Anniversary RAW a little over a year ago drew 4.5M viewers. That probably represents the peak potential audience - or close to it - for wrestling. A week later it fell to 3.3M, and flash forward to now and the show is struggling to stay above 2M.

Even if no current WWE viewer watches AEW, there's a significantly sized lapsed audience out there. Don't underestimate AEW's potential.

Also consider the dynamic. WWE of 2010 still had a bit of a balance of legacy stars (HBK, Taker, HHH), more established newer stars (Cena, Orton, Batista, Edge, Miz), and some exciting younger talent (CM Punk, Legacy, Nexus). TNA was had a base of younger talent that was misused (Styles, Roode, Storm, Joe, Abyss) and a host of past their prime stars (Hogan, Flair, Foley, Hall, Nash, Kid).

WWE of 2019 has a very flat playing field. Quite simply put, it's Roman Reigns and everyone else. All AEW has to do is come to the plate with Jon Moxley and CM Punk, and then use superior storytelling to establish the other talented wrestlers on their roster.

Basically, I'm bullish on their initial prospects.
I definitely understand this however, AEW caters to an younger, online presence. Most of the people who watch WWE are in their 50s. The Nielsen statistics show that the age of WWE viewers is 55 years old.

Most of the popular shows on television also cater to these older people. The question will always be whether or not the online presence translates to viewers on TV.

Television audiences are older than ever. The most popular shows on cable (besides sports being the outlier) are news, house shows, and history shows with the occasional reality show sprinkled in.

AEW could light the world on fire, they could sign everybody, but if their main audience isn't on TV then none of it matters.

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Re: Will WWE counterprogram AEW?

NXT would be the only option. NXT and AEW probably share similar target demographics
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Re: Will WWE counterprogram AEW?

The difference in WCW and AEW is that WCW was already established long before it revamped and took on WWE. Plus they took actual real stars (Hogan, Hall, Nash, etc.) from WWF/E.

AEW is a totally new thing. The only recognizable names to those who aren't obsessed about wrestling like all of us on this forum are is maybe Chris Jericho, Cody Rhodes (Thanks to WWE) and maybe "the son of the Owner of the Jacksonville Jaguars". Thats it.

WWE does have a ton of "indy talent" but they have already been on WWEs large platform for years. Their name is already out there. More people now are aware of a Seth Rollins and Daniel Bryan than just about all of AEWs large roster.

Thats why I think that people are expecting too much too fast for AEW. Name recognition to draw people in is everything.

AEW will do well at first, but once the honeymoon of them being on TV is over lets see if people will still care to watch on a weekly basis. Not monthly or once every 4 months. Weekly.

WWE and AEW are not going to hurt each others business no matter what. DVR wasn't a thing back in the 90s, but it is now.
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