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Re: Gail Kim: I Think In Vince McMahon's Mind, He Thinks Hiring People Of Ethnicities Means He's Not Racist

I can't believe folk actually think not talking about racism suddenly stops racism. That's absurd, things don't get better by ignoring them and pretending they don't exist.
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id say you were on the right track except for this one. if you say "my son in law is black" and you arent mad about it, then you arent racist because someone of a different race banging your daughter is probably the thing that racists would hate the most.
The "and you arent mad about it" is a huge qualifier that was not really implied in my post. But even with that said, I disagree that someone who "is not mad about it" cant be racist because this acceptance can fall under the purview of tokenism. People who are racist can learn to live with, and even accept their children's interracial relationship but that doesnt mean that they dont hold racially prejudiced views or support racially oppressive policies systemically.

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I can't believe folk actually think not talking about racism suddenly stops racism. That's absurd, things don't get better by ignoring them and pretending they don't exist.
Morgan Freeman expressed a similar sentiment but probably articulated it better than most. This was from a 60 Minutes interview several years ago.

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FREEMAN: Ridiculous.

WALLACE: Why?

FREEMAN: Youíre going to relegate my history to a month?

WALLACE: Come on.

FREEMAN: What do you do with yours? Which month is White History Month? Come on, tell me.

WALLACE: Iím Jewish.

FREEMAN: OK. Which month is Jewish History Month?

WALLACE: There isnít one.

FREEMAN: Why not? Do you want one?

WALLACE: No, no.

FREEMAN: I donít either. I donít want a Black History Month. Black history is American history.

WALLACE: How are we going to get rid of racism until Ö?

FREEMAN: Stop talking about it. Iím going to stop calling you a white man. And Iím going to ask you to stop calling me a black man. I know you as Mike Wallace. You know me as Morgan Freeman. Youíre not going to say, ďI know this white guy named Mike Wallace.Ē Hear what Iím saying?
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Morgan Freeman expressed a similar sentiment but probably articulated it better than most. This was from a 60 Minutes interview several years ago.


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Morgan Freeman expressed a similar sentiment but probably articulated it better than most. This was from a 60 Minutes interview several years ago.

I knew somebody would come with this bull shit quote. It's just like how folk try to shoe horn in Chris Rock's "N*ggas vs Black people". Yes black history should be considered regular history that's true. But the end of that quote is fucking stupid. In reality this "why can't we just all be the human race, why do we have to separate ourselves" mindset would never work in reality.

At the end of the day while yes we are all humans, the truth is most groups do have differences. The same way people of different genders experience life different is the same way people of different races and cultures experience things different. Me being a black man from the midwest I will have different experiences than a white guy from the UK. There's no problem with admitting that. There's no reason to not acknowledge there are differences between folk the same way there's no reason to not acknowledge some people hate others for their differences.
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Re: Gail Kim: I Think In Vince McMahon's Mind, He Thinks Hiring People Of Ethnicities Means He's Not Racist

Does this bitch ever shut the fuck up?
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I can't believe folk actually think not talking about racism suddenly stops racism. That's absurd, things don't get better by ignoring them and pretending they don't exist.
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Morgan Freeman expressed a similar sentiment but probably articulated it better than most. This was from a 60 Minutes interview several years ago.
I honestly think it is a logically and empirically vacuous position to hold. And with all due respect to Morgan Freeman who is a fine actor and is more than entitled to his opinion, but the idea that racism is eradicated once it is ignored simply holds zero water historically or empirically.

This is very simple. Throughout American history there have numerous examples of systemic and legal institutions of racism. There was slavery, there was racial disenfranchisement, there was jim crow laws that denied public facilities to people of color. Then there have been numerous symbolic and legal rectifications of this racism.

-The 13th Amendment called for slavery to be abolished in the US.
-The 15th Amendment banned racial discrimination in Federal elections.
-The 24th Amendment banned Congress and the States from instituting poll taxes
-The Civil Rights Act of 1964
-The Voting Rights Act of 1965

All of these measures were designed to combat systemic racism in the United States and have succeeded in some places and failed in others. they have certainly not eradicated racism but they have limited its reach.

Not one of these Amendments or Laws came into fruition because people STOPPED talking about the existence of racism. Nope. They happened because people actively shined the light on racism and oppression and did not back down when confronted with it.

So again...Morgan Freeman is entitled to his opinion. I think that he is simply wrong.

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Re: Gail Kim: I Think In Vince McMahon's Mind, He Thinks Hiring People Of Ethnicities Means He's Not Racist

She's probably right. I mean every time that Vince has had the chance to truly push Asian talent in a big way, he's refused to pull the trigger and they've fallen off. And he has DECADES of past history showing that he doesn't "get" their appeal.

Asuka this year being the most recent example of this.
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Re: Gail Kim: I Think In Vince McMahon's Mind, He Thinks Hiring People Of Ethnicities Means He's Not Racist

Gail Kim is a bitter never was been. The crying gets old after awhile.

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Re: Gail Kim: I Think In Vince McMahon's Mind, He Thinks Hiring People Of Ethnicities Means He's Not Racist

Sasha banks complains and all the white knights come out of the wood work claiming "she's not blonde with big tits so she'll never get pushed." So is Vince only racist when it comes to women? Where are all of sasha's army now???!

2 black wwe champions out of what....? Over 50?! Clearly not a race thing tho. I mean nakamura, samoa Joe, and wade barret all got runs at the top and they aren't American, right?!

I love the argument "if the right black guy came along they would've been champ. Look at the rock!" Does the rock identify as black??! Did Booker t get a run at the top? Or did he have to dress as a king and put on a fake accent for the big gold belt when it didn't mean shit? Pope Elijah burke never got the ball. Neither did Monty brown.

Racism will go away if we stop talking about it?! You guys sound like the parents of a child with a handsy uncle. Nothing goes away from ignoring it. Racism will never die as long as fear is alive. We fear what we don't understand and we hate what we fear. Haven't you people ever watched star wars???
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