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Re: What was the biggest reason casual fans went away?

Lack of characters, focus on workrate matches and wrestlers thinking going on a shoot or talking about how bad the ratings have been are good promo materials.
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post #22 of 151 (permalink) Old 04-12-2019, 05:43 PM
 
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For me, it was the lack of dangerous matches, ladders, cages and blood.
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The fad of wrestling wore off.
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I personally don't think casual fans left at all , if anything I think casuals have only increased
The crowds say otherwise. Casual fans never chanted cringe worthy things like YOU DESERVE IT.

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The fad of wrestling wore off.
This.

Pro Wrestling always has been, is, and always will be a niche entertainment product.

They have been periods, whether it be b/c of a group of stars, taking advantage of a popular current trend, or a combo of the 2 where pro-wrestling jumped up to the "mainstream" for short periods. there is no magic formula to bring back these mystical "casuals" that all the "anti-smark" posters like to rave about or anything like that.

For the WWE what you do is put on a consistent and decent show that makes sense and they'll do just fine, and then take advantage when you get that group of stars or a current trend that you are actually the leader on in the entertainment world and move up to "mainstream" for a bit. Its always going to be (or should be) and eb and flow.

The WWE's current quality issues is not focusing on one aspect over another or who they push (i mean there are issues in there but they don't really matter b/c) the biggest problem is they don't produce good television shows anymore, period. They hit on something good every now and then, then burn it out or ruin it really fast. Until they're overall quality of writing/producing shows improves it really doesn't matter if the focus is more workrate or characters, who the "Stars" are, etc.
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Re: What was the biggest reason casual fans went away?

The bubble burst as it was always going to, but I know for a fact that the ratings for RAW started to seriously dip when this dingbat was booked to be worth more than he was.



The fucking reign of terror made RAW unwatchable. Trips thinking he's anything more than eternal second banana and trying to do his own Four Horsemen (which can't be done) got so old, so fast. No wonder Smackdown started to beat them out in ratings.
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Lack of and horrible story lines
No ultra charismatic stars with cross over appeal like the The Rock, Stone Cold, etc....I think they exist and have existed. The WWE has not allowed them to shine because They want it to be about the WWE and not the individual stars
Also think it was a boom and a fad that cycles every 20 years or so...EXCEPT with social media and all the product, choices and options out there now they may have bee the last boom cycle
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I stopped watching from 2009-2015, pretty much my high school & college years, and got back into it the Raw after Wrestlemania 32 and have kept up with it & gone to Hell in a Cell, Royal Rumble 17, & a few house shows in the last 3 years. I did get back into it pretty “hardcore” for about a year before I realized it was a bunch of the same feuds going on for wayyyyyy too long (the Sheamus & Cesaro 7-match series was ridiculous). The last two years I’ve gone back to a “casual” level of fandom and now just catch the PPVs and usually read up on the results of Raw/Smackdown. Social Media definitely makes it easier for someone to be a casual fan these days, as you don’t have to catch it on Live and most young adults don’t watch cable TV aside from NFL/NBA games.

I have at least 5 friends who during this time have also gotten back into WWE and keeping up with the storylines/backstage stuff, usually going through the same cycle of getting back into it for a few months, then slowly reducing the amount of time it takes to invest into the weekly programming. Just not enough quality content to keep anyone older than 18 or under 50 consistently occupied 52 weeks a year.

TV ratings really don’t do the shows justice: out of those 5 friends and myself, I’m probably the only one that watches the live programming or even DVR’s it, they usually end up catching it on free streaming sites or Smackdown reruns on Hulu. That’s 1 in 6 viewers that SOMETIMES contributes to their TV ratings. There’s definitely still a lot of casual fans
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The product became embarrassing to watch.

Try luring in boxing or UFC fans by showing them the little people's court. Or Cenas loser promo. Or new day skits.
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I thought casual fans are a more shallow side of the fanbase, If nothing looks good or draws their attention long enough they will bounce to something else.

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