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Re: Was SummerSlam 2014 a major turning point for WWE?

The last 3 organic top stars were no more. Punk left, Bryan injured and Cena came off the biggest loss a fotc had to suffer to date.



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Re: Was SummerSlam 2014 a major turning point for WWE?

If I was to put an exact date on it it would be January 16 2014, or the return of the D-O-GG to the WWE.

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Re: Was SummerSlam 2014 a major turning point for WWE?

SummerSlam 2014 was intentionally designed to be a turning point. Specifically, it was the destruction of John Cena and the beginning of the ascent of Roman Reigns. While Cena did have one more quick title run after that, he was never the same and was pushed down the card like he had never been before.

Not so sure this was a good change, as we're still basically in a holding pattern from there. I mean, Seth and Dean are feuding again and Brock's champ with the idea of holding it for a while. We really need to break away from this "era."

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SummerSlam 2014 was intentionally designed to be a turning point. Specifically, it was the destruction of John Cena and the beginning of the ascent of Roman Reigns. While Cena did have one more quick title run after that, he was never the same and was pushed down the card like he had never been before.

Not so sure this was a good change, as we're still basically in a holding pattern from there. I mean, Seth and Dean are feuding again and Brock's champ with the idea of holding it for a while. We really need to break away from this "era."
Yeah I think we agree on this.

In a very short time the main event scene completely changed. Punk quit, Bryan got hurt and Cena got demoted. Vince decided go with Lesnar and Reigns as 2 guys to carry the company and it backfired horribly.

In my opinion a promotion is a good as your top guys. Bruno carried WWWF. Then they declined with Bob Backlund. Then Hogan took WWF to new heights. Austin and Rock took it even higher. Cena was a huge downgrade from Austin/Rock. But I’ll take Cena any day over Reigns or part timer Lesnar.

When the top of the card sucks, your whole product suffers. That’s why nothing they’ve done since helped.

Women’s revolution didn’t help.
Sting, Goldberg, Undertaker and nostalgia acts in general didn’t help.
Raiding TNA/ROH/NJPW for talent didn’t help.
Brand split didn’t help.
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I don't think Lesnar is the problem. Brock is great. The problem was the reason why he was pushed. It was all about Reigns and that was the main issue. They pushed Roman when nobody wanted him as the top guy.

Just have Strowman (or McIntyre) beat Lesnar clean at RR19 and everything will look better. Keep Lesnar strong, but not as dominant and everything will be fine.
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Re: Was SummerSlam 2014 a major turning point for WWE?

I think WrestleMania XXX is the turning point. The Daniel Bryan story is completed, Triple H has his last great WrestleMania singles match, the Shield's first run enters its endgame, Punk is gone for sure, Undertaker's streak ends, Brock is cemented as a killer, etc. It sets up the subsequent years more than any other single event.


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