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Re: The Bella Twins tease a return challenging the IIconics

I want the Bella Twins to return and I don't care who they face...
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I actually wouldn't mind a Bellas and Duo feud. I do expect the Bellas to go over but what exactly are you expecting from Billie and Peyton? They're heels who tend to both lose matches regularly. Feuding with the Bellas will still elevate Billie and Peyton.
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Re: The Bella Twins tease a return challenging the IIconics

If the rumors of a WWE Women's Tag Team Championship are true, and provided the Bellas work more as enhancement talent oppose to bogarting the title, I wouldn't mind having them around.

If the women's division is going to expand they need more bodies and, again provided they're used properly, the Bellas could help cultivate it.

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You seem like a good poster otherwise, but this is one of the dumbest things I have ever read. I know it is just popular to hate the Bellas just because but still.
She didn't put her sister over? They were a team? Should Peyton randomly put Billie over in the next couple of weeks.
Didn't put Paige over? She did multiple times when Paige debuted and then during their never ending feud over the Title Paige won every single non Title match. Nikki won her Title matches as Champion but outside of those matches all she did was put people over. She lost most of her non Title matches as Champion.
She did put Carmella over, she put Carmella over every night for months. Yes Nikki won the PPV matches but every single other segment or match between them ended with Carmella laying Nikki out. Go back and watch that feud Carmella layed Nikki out every week for like 3 months straight. And Ellsworth is a jobber why should he and Carmella have a competitive match with Cena and Nikki?
The whole point of the feud with the Mizanins was to lead to the Proposal. That was the entire reason they feuded, so Nikki and John could be in the ring together at Mania and get engaged. Yes it was a terrible misuse of The Miz but Miz would have been jobbed out regardless as that is all he has done in the year since.
And Nikki was easily one of the best and smoothest workers in the Rumble match and her and Asuka at the end was a good showdown and there was suspense to the ending as Nikki is one of the few you could see WWE letting end Asuka's streak. And she lost the match and put Asuka over.

I would be all for an Iconics v Bellas feud, what would you prefer Peyton just jobs to Asuka/Charlotte/Becky in meaningless matches every week?
I am sure that "I wish you died in the womb" period they were team right? And then just randomly teaming again without explanation

And surely Paige was the same before and after feuding with Nikki, she wasn't the reason why she was pushed aside at all right?

And under your reasoning, I imagine you think Bray won the feud with Cena because Cena "just won the PPV matches"while Bray dominated him on tv

And of course you could see Nikki beating Asuka, but not for her abilities, but for her backstage politicking, she is kinda like Charlotte in that regard, or at least she was until a couple of weeks ago, although her step dad is still in a high position on WWE, so that may not change.

I am not gonna pretend Nikki didn't improove because she did, she was a somewhat decent worker at the end of her time a full timer, but pretend that she didn't accomplish almost everything she did because of backstage politics would be naive.

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Re: The Bella Twins tease a return challenging the IIconics

Could we not and just say it happened?
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Re: The Bella Twins tease a return challenging the IIconics

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I am sure that "I wish you died in the womb" period they were team right? And then just randomly teaming again without explanation

And surely Paige was the same before and after feuding with Nikki, she wasn't the reason why she was pushed aside at all right?

And under your reasoning, I imagine you think Bray won the feud with Cena because Cena "just won the PPV matches"while Bray dominated him on tv

And of course you could see Nikki beating Asuka, but not for her abilities, but for her backstage politicking, she is kinda like Charlotte in that regard, or at least she was until a couple of weeks ago, although her step dad is still in a high position on WWE, so that may not change.

I am not gonna pretend Nikki didn't improove because she did, she was a somewhat decent worker at the end of her time a full timer, but pretend that she didn't accomplish almost everything she did because of backstage politics would be naive.

Nikki before Cena: Jobber and valet
Nikki after Cena: Longest reigning Divas champion, star of 2 reality shows
You specifically said after Nikki won the Title in 2014, the Bellas feud was befre then. So which period are you talking about? Nikki not putting Brie over when Nikki was being built up as a heel future Champion, or when the Bellas were back together as heels?

The Bellas and Paige are good friends in real life, so as much as the Bellas being bitches and sabotaging Paige might fit your narrative no Nikki was not the reason Paige was pushed aside. Paige was pushed aside because Charlotte Flair and Sasha Banks had arrived on the scene.

Where did you pull that logic from? Where did I say Carmella won the feud? I said Nikki put Carmella over which she did by having Carmella get the best of her for three months straight. There is a huge difference there. Please tell me you can see the difference after stopping and thinking about it?

Every single thing any wrestler has ever accomplished is because of backstage politics. Not always politicking from said wrestler but to succeed in wrestling you need someone in charge to go out of their way to make you succeed. This is why wrestlers like The Miz and Dolph Ziggler are still just jobbers despite everything. This is why sadly the Iconics will just be jobbers, you need someone in charge to politic for you to succeed. This is true of every wrestler ever. Even Daniel Bryan needed Vince and HHH to cave and push him to be a true success.

I like Peyton, I want to see her succeed, I feel like she is more than good enough to be a star in the womens division, especially if Alexa Bliss can be. But I also like The Bellas, and Nikki is a superior pro wrestler to Peyton. Maybe that will change, but right now I know a Nikki match will be of a higher quality than a Peyton match.

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