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post #1 of 7 (permalink) Old 10-06-2017, 02:39 AM Thread Starter
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Interesting study on WWE's business and if it's down

It looks like Cena is the real indicator and needle mover. him leaving smackdown coincides with their live event numbers going down. Thoughts? https://www.fightful.com/brandon-how...ttendance-down
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The article lost me when it made the typical apologist argument of "revenue! revenue! revenue!" Revenue don't mean shit when you don't pocket any of it.

Yeah, you're bringing in more revenue because you're running more shows. You're still not able to pocket any of it because of expenses and low attendance.

Also the argument "business is good! We may have lost a hundred fans here and there but we've also gained a hundred fans here and there" isn't very persuasive when the arenas are clearly only a quarter full.

You know what the article does show? A quality product gets views. When Smackdown was on a roll it's figures were up. Now that it's shit, it's numbers are shit.
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Interesting read OP,
Thanks for sharing.

I'm not a business expert so i try and steer clear of any of that chat,

The issues that always seem to crop up whenever i talk to casual fans are
1: tickets are to expensive. (which they are) I posted the other day how it was cheaper for a family of 4 to go on a weeks holiday abroad at a 4 star hotel flights included, than it was for one front row seat at a WWE PPV.

2: its boring (which i translate to lack of creative) it hasn't been good in years but just recently it really has taken a turn for the worse and that is from a diehard neckbeard who often get accused of being a WWE apologist.



A point i always like to make as it does not get discussed very often is the Heels winning to much,
I know the money is in the chase but i cant remember the last time an all round cheered guy held on to a world title for a good 6 months...?

Its very rare than an episode of SD Live or Raw is feel good,
It always seems like the 'bad guys' dominate far to much,
Which turns it into a very negative show i think.


Its nice to see the good guys come out on top but it doesn't seem to happen very often these days.


It probably sounds a bit stupid but i do think its a really understated point that could do with some real looking into and consideration on WWE's part.

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Yeah this doesn't fly tbh, he hasn't touched on anything financial and based everything on Meltzer guesstimates. I work as a financial/business analyst, all he's done here is presented convincing sounding fluff, there's nothing of substance. If you want real metrics look at their wafer thin profit margins for a company of that size, the budget cuts and axed network shows, and the fact the network subscribers have plateaued for a long time now. Business, is NOT good.

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Yeah this doesn't fly tbh, he hasn't touched on anything financial and based everything on Meltzer guesstimates. I work as a financial/business analyst, all he's done here is presented convincing sounding fluff, there's nothing of substance. If you want real metrics look at their wafer thin profit margins for a company of that size, the budget cuts and axed network shows, and the fact the network subscribers have plateaued for a long time now. Business, is NOT good.
I post when they release their financials and I’ve noted two interesting facts:

1) WWE no longer reports on US subscribers to the Network. That’s likely because you we see that they held steady for quarters or are declining

2) For the first time ever, WWE did not report on the overall number of live events that they ran in the previous quarter. So while they still showed live event revenue, you can no longer determine the average revenue per event.
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As long as they're in profit at the end of the 4th quarter then its all good because its all about the green
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I post when they release their financials and I’ve noted two interesting facts:

1) WWE no longer reports on US subscribers to the Network. That’s likely because you we see that they held steady for quarters or are declining

2) For the first time ever, WWE did not report on the overall number of live events that they ran in the previous quarter. So while they still showed live event revenue, you can no longer determine the average revenue per event.
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