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Vince Russo on the lack of Psychology in wrestling

When I officially started the business it was 1991 and literally around that time, I remember we did our first chat with AOL. I remember it back in like 1993, and around that time it got exposed to the world that wrestling is a work, itís a television show, none of this is real but like I said, bro, I donít know what happened in the last 5 years, but you have a crew of young talent that have somehow convinced themselves that it is all about the match and we have to go out there and have to do crazy stuff and put ourselves at risk to get the crowd to chant, Ďthis is awesome.í It is the most preposterous thing I have ever heard in my life. Here is what any wrestlersí agenda should be and Sam you can appreciate this: these wrestlers have a shelf life, from a business standpoint they are only going to be able to make money for so long, so what they want to do is they want to try and extend that wrestling life and shelf life as long as they can, because the time is going to come where they are not going to be able to perform anymore in the ring, but yet you have guys in their 20ís and early 30ís that are performing these ridiculous moves that require no psychology and in an instant somebody can break a neck, and I am telling you right now, somebody is going to get paralyzed in the ring doing one of these crazy, unnecessary things where somebody is going to be saying, wait a minute, hold on, we better look at the way these guys are wrestling nowadays.


I totally agree with Russo on this being one of the biggest problems hurting wrestling. Now a days you have everyone doing crazy spot after spot on free tv that has took away the psychology and realism. I keep stressing that ring work and crazy spots do not and has never been a draw in wrestling. Larger than life character has always drawn in viewers. The Hogans, The Pipers, Savage, Flair, Rhodes, Horsemen, Rock, Stone Cold and others are some of the biggest Superstars ever in the business who had the character and personality something these spot after spot let's wrestle like a cruiser weight by doing spots for the sake of it wrestlers are lacking.
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Re: Vince Russo on the lack of pyschology hurting the business

Vince Russo huh?
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Re: Vince Russo on the lack of pyschology hurting the business

He is an idiot. But he is right. Why do you think their is so much injuries in WWE these days? Because their is so much focus on Work Rate, Wrestling, Massive Spots e.t.c. Little on Psychology.
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Isn't Vince Russo the guy who used to say that chinlocks would lose viewers and every match needed to have a different ending instead of the old pinfall or submission finish? Yeah, pass on his "wisdom." Booking needs psychology too, mate.

A lack of steroids probably doesn't help with the injuries. I wonder if guys are stretching properly too?

I agree that the ring product is not its best, but Russo has proven consistently over his entire stint in wrestling that he has no awareness of what makes a good in-ring product, nor does he genuinely care about what makes a good in-ring product. If Finn Balor called himself "The Pussy Patroller," Vince Russo would have a hard-on for him the size of the Rocky Mountains.
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Re: Vince Russo on the lack of pyschology hurting the business

I agree with him up to a certain point. I used to love the snappy, high risk, high impact style of WCW's cruiserweight division as an entertaining carwreck, but it's far from the type of style that lends itself well for maintaining a sense of realism in a pseudo sport. At the end of the day, it's an exhibition of well-timed choreographed move sequences, and it's hard to properly sell or create slowburn drama that way. I'm fine with the style in small doses because it creates variety on the card.

As for injuries. Seems like the wear and tear of being on the road and not training property does far more damage than being flexible in the ring. ANY style has risks involved. The key I think is allowing the performers to get sufficient amounts of rest. He does have a point, tho. One wrong move can paralyze someone, but that's the tisk they're willing to take.

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Vince Russo huh?
I was going to post something similar. Vince Russo's a fucking cancer in life.

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Re: Vince Russo on the lack of pyschology hurting the business

The fuck does he care about the lack of psychology in wrestling? According to him, wrestling isn't even the draw.

Not to mention, he's complaining about the absence of something that Jim Cornette has largely attributed to his existence in the business, as Russo never understood that aspect of the business. He never comprehended the art of storytelling within a match. He felt it was the least important part of a wrestling show. And now, he's trying to convince us (or himself) that's the problem with wrestling today?

Motherfucker preaching about the business missing something he didn't even attempt to keep alive when he was in it. Now, he's just repeating shit that other people with a leg to stand on have said, in order to make it looks like he knows what the fuck he's talking about. If I'm a wrestler, he's the last person I want advice from.


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The thing is that even the most realistic part of a prowrestling match is still incredibly unrealistic for a real fight. Most low level moves would end the match. I mean a pinfall attempt gets you in side control.

Why not go full retard?
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Vince Russo on the lack of Psychology in wrestling

When I officially started the business it was 1991 and literally around that time, I remember we did our first chat with AOL. I remember it back in like 1993, and around that time it got exposed to the world that wrestling is a work, it’s a television show, none of this is real but like I said, bro, I don’t know what happened in the last 5 years, but you have a crew of young talent that have somehow convinced themselves that it is all about the match and we have to go out there and have to do crazy stuff and put ourselves at risk to get the crowd to chant, ‘this is awesome.’ It is the most preposterous thing I have ever heard in my life. Here is what any wrestlers’ agenda should be and Sam you can appreciate this: these wrestlers have a shelf life, from a business standpoint they are only going to be able to make money for so long, so what they want to do is they want to try and extend that wrestling life and shelf life as long as they can, because the time is going to come where they are not going to be able to perform anymore in the ring, but yet you have guys in their 20’s and early 30’s that are performing these ridiculous moves that require no psychology and in an instant somebody can break a neck, and I am telling you right now, somebody is going to get paralyzed in the ring doing one of these crazy, unnecessary things where somebody is going to be saying, wait a minute, hold on, we better look at the way these guys are wrestling nowadays.


I totally agree with Russo on this being one of the biggest problems hurting wrestling. Now a days you have everyone doing crazy spot after spot on free tv that has took away the psychology and realism. I keep stressing that ring work and crazy spots do not and has never been a draw in wrestling. Larger than life character has always drawn in viewers. The Hogans, The Pipers, Savage, Flair, Rhodes, Horsemen, Rock, Stone Cold and others are some of the biggest Superstars ever in the business who had the character and personality something these spot after spot let's wrestle like a cruiser weight by doing spots for the sake of it wrestlers are lacking.
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