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post #61 of 215 (permalink) Old 03-22-2017, 09:56 PM
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I dont give a shit who has abandoned ship. As long as I like what I see thats all i care about. You can say sad all day long. WWE is not going anywhere for a long long time and you know that.
Well, most of the fans from the past logically decided most of the storylines today make little to no sense, so they moved onto other forms of viable entertainment that actually make some sense to them and aren't run by an over the hill idiot that is far past his prime. If WWE eliminates their competition, it'd be a horrible thing for WWE, as well. But this isn't true, so it doesn't matter.

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Marty Scurll and Will Ospreay in the UK Division? Yes please
The potential of guys like Seth Rollins and AJ Styles going back to ROH without leaving WWE? Yes please

As unrealistic as this would be, from a guy who has very little time to be able to follow all the wrestling companies, having one of the best companies in the wrestling world merge into the unquestionably greatest Wrestling company would be a dream.
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The machine has made wrestling in America the most irrelevant it's ever been from a mainstream and pop culture aspect. No one cares but us. Everyone else has abandoned them. Their dirt-cheap Network that is available worldwide can't even hit a poultry 2 million subs even with the vault they have. Sad.
What has the competition done to help make wrestling more mainstream relevant. WCW didn't ask WWE to get mainstream recognition they just found a hot angle. While obviously TNA, ROH, and NJPW have never had the backing of someone as flush with cash backing them like WCW did. But the fact remains that they haven't exactly been doing thing to grow the wrestling business as a whole.

These aren't young companies either like Lucha Underground either. You could easily argue TNA trying to be WWE lite, ROH solely focusing on hardcore fans, and NJPW just know getting interested in global expansion has done far more harm than WWE deciding to continue to do them.

I mean at one point ROH had guys like Punk, Bryan, Joe, Styles, Rollins, Sami, and KO working for them. The fact they weren't able to get bigger with all that talent should be criticized heavily, the same way that TNA letting Hogan come in and kill interest is criticized. I mean Vince gets criticized for not getting more out of guys like fucking Drew Gallows and EC3 when people see those guys succeed elsewhere. Why aren't more fans rightfully questioning how they let all that talent slip through their hand

The business doesn't need WWE buying out everyone know, clearly the wrestling industry needs competition. But at some point fingers need to be pointed at WWEs competition for not doing more to better themselves.



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TNA & ROH popped up after a major boom period for the industry. Who's gonna pop up when wrestling is so irrelevant now in the US?

Anyways I hope this isn't true, as this would be awful news for the industry. ROH has had some major faults in the last few years but they're an alternative to WWE in the US, & wrestling doesn't need to lose any of its alternatives.
Something will pop up, just off the sheer fact guys will need somewhere to work and someone with money saved up will see in opportunity to try and profit on that.
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...fuck.
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They could have just let them die the slow death they were dying already and have everyone they have interest in hit the open market. ROH hasn't been particularly interesting in a couple years. Their relationship with New Japan has been their saving grace. When talents are crossing over like that it helps get them broader recognition. With NJPW wanting to expand their own business into the US and possibly sign more non Japanese talent to exclusive deals because of it could likely mean an even starker drop off for ROH. The guaranteed money and usage from multinational brand like NJPW could be an alluring prospect for many talents.

I hope it isn't true because if WWE does buy them and ROH becomes just a name it may as well be put out of it's misery. It would be an interesting way to undercut New Japan's expansion though because it removes access to a good chunk of it's north america based talent from availability.

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Good point about them trying to undercut New japan. Which that may be their main reason to do this.

Also Alvarez said on the observer board something is definitely going on he just doesn't know what.

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What has the competition done to help make wrestling more mainstream relevant. WCW didn't ask WWE to get mainstream recognition they just found a hot angle. While obviously TNA, ROH, and NJPW have never had the backing of someone as flush with cash backing them like WCW did. But the fact remains that they haven't exactly been doing thing to grow the wrestling business as a whole.

These aren't young companies either like Lucha Underground either. You could easily argue TNA trying to be WWE lite, ROH solely focusing on hardcore fans, and NJPW just know getting interested in global expansion has done far more harm than WWE deciding to continue to do them.

I mean at one point ROH had guys like Punk, Bryan, Joe, Styles, Rollins, Sami, and KO working for them. The fact they weren't able to get bigger with all that talent should be criticized heavily, the same way that TNA letting Hogan come in and kill interest is criticized. I mean Vince gets criticized for not getting more out of guys like fucking Drew Gallows and EC3 when people see those guys succeed elsewhere. Why aren't more fans rightfully questioning how they let all that talent slip through their hand

The business doesn't need WWE buying out everyone know, clearly the wrestling industry needs competition. But at some point fingers need to be pointed at WWEs competition for not doing more to better themselves.
Well, yeah, those companies suck. WCW didn't. Even ECW at least provided something different. TNA and the other trash are awful. Never said they weren't. And they also aren't back by any billionaire wrestling fans like Ted Turner, either. Doesn't mean they all need to go out of business, either, though.

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Well, most of the fans from the past logically decided most of the storylines today make little to no sense, so they moved onto other forms of viable entertainment that actually make some sense to them and aren't run by an over the hill idiot that is far past his prime. If WWE eliminates their competition, it'd be a horrible thing for WWE, as well. But this isn't true, so it doesn't matter.
Thing is with this is that ROH is not competition to WWE. No where close to it. They get rid of ROH it wont make a difference.

And once again im gonna wait until what Meltzer has to say before we decide if its true or not.
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re: WWE in talks to buyout ROH - Mainly for the Library

If anything, this is an all-out attack on NJPW and having them not gain any ground here in the West. Someone like Will Ospreay is making good money just working ROH and NJPW and that's not including the near dozens of other promotions he works. Taking ROH out would be one less place for a guy like him to work and would make a WWE offer that much more enticing.
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Thing is with this is that ROH is not competition to WWE. No where close to it. They get rid of ROH it wont make a difference.

And once again im gonna wait until what Meltzer has to say before we decide if its true or not.
They're not on the same standing as WWE, but it absolutely would make a difference in the industry. It's also one less place for WWE to pick talent from, so the talent pool for WWE gets even smaller than it already is.

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True or Not their would be no downside for WWE in inquiring and zero downside for Sinclair(not ROH) in considering. Truth be told about it likely wouldn't survive long as anything, but tape a library and whatever talent that they want would be distributed among the rosters of NXT SD and RAW. Even if it were to last you wouldn't see guys like Rollins Styles and Joe working "ROH" because they are too much a part of the bigger shows.
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