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post #91 of 95 (permalink) Old 03-28-2017, 11:32 PM Thread Starter
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I've literally skipped through every women's match/promo/segment except when they were doing that mixed tag stuff with Jericho/Christian in like 2003. So I don't have a favourite because I've never watched them in all my years watching WWE. I just find the way they are presented cringeworthy...
That is a very fair point. I will say however that things are really changing. It's far from perfect but a far cry from how things were just a year and a half ago.

Sucks that the SD women's match is on the pre-show. Gotta make room for Pitbull, FloRida, a 50 year old with two moves in the "main event," a 47 year old non wrestler in the "semi main event," and 20 million crappy segments with New Day. Yuck

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Q: With the title of the book, you embrace labels like crazy. But one label that I know you didn’t embrace during your WWE career is diva. Why didn’t you like the term and what do you think about the company’s decision to use “superstars” for both men and women.
A: For me, embracing words like “crazy” or “impulsive” or “tomboy” and things that have these negative connotations, I think they’re kind of placed upon people in a negative way. Embracing it is a way to break that negative stigma.
It was sort of the opposite with the word “diva.”. There was an embracing of something that was not, I think, truthful to everyone that was on the roster. There weren’t divas. I think the connotations for that just weren’t true to who our girls were. When you enter that world and you say, “This is just how the business is now, but we will be different. We will show that we have layers.” I actually have the quote in one of my speeches that I wanted to redefine the term “diva.” You can call me that, but it’s going to mean something new. I think my generation definitely did that and I’m really proud of that. To know that the girls after me have kind of taken that ball and run with it and are evolving, it warms my heart.. There’s nothing else I could have wanted more for the future than for it to be so redefined that the word was abolished.

Doesn't sound to me like someone who is shaking her fist angry at the world that other women are succeeding. @gsm1988

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post #92 of 95 (permalink) Old 03-31-2017, 09:23 PM
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That is a very fair point. I will say however that things are really changing. It's far from perfect but a far cry from how things were just a year and a half ago.

Sucks that the SD women's match is on the pre-show. Gotta make room for Pitbull, FloRida, a 50 year old with two moves in the "main event," a 47 year old non wrestler in the "semi main event," and 20 million crappy segments with New Day. Yuck

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Q: With the title of the book, you embrace labels like crazy. But one label that I know you didn’t embrace during your WWE career is diva. Why didn’t you like the term and what do you think about the company’s decision to use “superstars” for both men and women.
A: For me, embracing words like “crazy” or “impulsive” or “tomboy” and things that have these negative connotations, I think they’re kind of placed upon people in a negative way. Embracing it is a way to break that negative stigma.
It was sort of the opposite with the word “diva.”. There was an embracing of something that was not, I think, truthful to everyone that was on the roster. There weren’t divas. I think the connotations for that just weren’t true to who our girls were. When you enter that world and you say, “This is just how the business is now, but we will be different. We will show that we have layers.” I actually have the quote in one of my speeches that I wanted to redefine the term “diva.” You can call me that, but it’s going to mean something new. I think my generation definitely did that and I’m really proud of that. To know that the girls after me have kind of taken that ball and run with it and are evolving, it warms my heart.. There’s nothing else I could have wanted more for the future than for it to be so redefined that the word was abolished.

Doesn't sound to me like someone who is shaking her fist angry at the world that other women are succeeding. @gsm1988
Doesn't negate my point about how she does not get respect for what she tried to do. No one outside of Bayley in that company dares even acknowledge her existence in public. And now all the corporate ass kissers are in Orlando shilling for how great WWE is. Fuck em. AJ saying something nice does not discount the points I made.

And now all the suck ups who pretend like AJ never existed are falling all over themselves to praise Beth Phoenix for being a pioneer. UGH.

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Doesn't negate my point about how she does not get respect for what she tried to do. No one outside of Bayley in that company dares even acknowledge her existence in public. And now all the corporate ass kissers are in Orlando shilling for how great WWE is. Fuck em. AJ saying something nice does not discount the points I made.

And now all the suck ups who pretend like AJ never existed are falling all over themselves to praise Beth Phoenix for being a pioneer. UGH.
Bayley was the only woman in NXT who AJ built a close relationship with, she had her foot out the door when they were coming up so she never really got to know the others. Since when is not being publicly negative about a company that provides you with a stable career and worldwide fame qualify as being a corporate ass kisser? AJ being complimentary seems to shatter your illusion that she is angry that other women are successful. You are more bitter than she is.

Why do you feel the need to criticize Beth getting the recognition she deserves? As a fan you should be happy that women of the past are finally getting their long overdue recognition. When AJ goes back I'm sure they'll roll the red carpet out for her. Until then I choose to be positive and support her by doing things I can actually control like read her book and by praising her whenever someone mentions her name or whenever she does something of note and not by bitching on a board about how terrible everything is. At this point AJ could come out and literally thank the women of WWE for picking up on what she helped start and you would still find some reason to dismiss it. It's pathetic quite frankly.

I get your frustration, but constantly lashing out at some of her biggest fans and supporters does nothing to help, and if anything causes people to turn on her, it will be people like you badmouthing everyone who doesn't react to her being gone like you do.
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Molly, Lita, Melina, Maryse

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Asuka, Sasha Banks, Mandy
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Past: Lita, Trish Stratus, Mickie James, AJ Lee

Present: Sasha Banks, Alexa Bliss
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