Originally Posted by Chris JeriG.O.A.T
It probably comes from certain fans constantly complaining about promos, over-the-top gimmicks and any storyline with more soap than "I'm the best wrestler, I want your title". When you hear people complain about core elements of wrestling and then promote real wrestling promotions, you assume those promotions must not have the things they complain about.
Well, it REALLY sucks that some fans have that belief and dismiss other companies because "LOL It's not WWE so who gives a shit?" That mentality is the biggest thing I hate about wrestling fans, at least watch the other shows before you talk shit.
As for the "I'm the best wrestler, I want your title". argument, yes a lot of promotions especially ROH use it, but they also have blood feuds, and tag teams going after other teams just for a shot at the #1
contendership. And ALL the belts mean something and they have real feuds that you can care about behind them.
That's why I'm one of the fans on here who's always trying to get people, yourself included to watch a new promotion and expand your horizons just a little bit. You might find a storyline that draws you like never before. Like when I first heard about PROGRESS, people were talking it up and how the Jimmy Havoc storyline was one of the best they had ever seen, so I checked it out and I loved it. To sum it up in short. Jimmy is a hardcore wrestler who was booked by PROGRESS under the agreement that he wasn't allowed to have hardcore matches, and he had to "wrestle" He tried his best but he kept getting drawn into hardcore matches and the promoter kept warning him not do it. Jimmy had a match with Sabre Jnr. and Nigel McGuinness as the guest referee (Nigel is an Indy legend who had incredible matches with Bryan/Joe/Aries in ROH. He ended up getting signed by WWE but a shoulder injury made them back off, and he ended up in TNA where he got injured and he was forced to retire. After which he started trying to get wrestlers to not use weapons anymore and wrestle normal matches. So having him ref a Havoc match was a HUGE deal ) The match was great and ZSJ won. Afterwards Nigel put Jimmy over as a "real" wrestler and told him he didn't need to destroy his body to prove it. But the very next show Jimmy was back in a hardcore match and was destroying himself again. He snapped the next show and beat the shit out of the promoter, won the world title and held it hostage for nearly two years. It's a truly remarkable storyline and one that is only scratching the surface in terms of Indy wrestling. ROH has TONS of slow build, overarching feuds and stories that I could spend hours writing about, but everyone is better off watching them.
Other promotions like PWG/CHIKARA/CZW/NJPW/Shimmer/Beyond and dozens and dozens of others are disproving that mentality I spoke of earlier wrong, all that is needed is more fans out there watching it.
Oh and as for WWE turning into "ROH" No they aren't doing that, they are simply trying to appeal to a different fan base whilst trying to keep the old one happy. I say give it some more time and they will achieve their overall goal