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post #1 of 117 (permalink) Old 10-20-2016, 01:32 AM Thread Starter
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The Star Void: Maybe cool, creative guys just don't want to be wrestlers anymore?

Reading through the Goldberg threads and how most noted the huge charisma and aura boost he provided compared to the full-time roster. While you see a lot of blame on Vince for not booking well, not protecting the right people, ect., it's getting increasingly hard to believe that there is some huge superstar out there that the company just can't bring the goods out of for they can't get out of their own way.

I simply refuse to believe that it is 100% on the company when a 20-year block where we were introduced to truly towering personalities such Roddy Piper, Ric Flair, Dusty Rhodes, Randy Savage, Hall & Nash, Shawn Michaels, Steve Austin and The Rock (just to name a few) has been followed up by a 15-year block where we get...umm...uh...John Cena and CM Punk. Those two are the unquestioned standouts of magnetism that broke out post-Attitude Era and frankly even they don't pass muster when you stand them next to the stars of these previous generations.

Diagnose the symptoms for why it is all you like, but as simple as it sounds, genuinely entrancing people must have stopped looking at wrestling as something to shoot for because the faces coming out of development belong to honest-to-God geeks. Yes, the company does share in the blame as they've not put their talent in the best positions to succeed but even if they had, guys like Seth Rollins, Kevin Owens, Sami Zayn, etc. have a ceiling and it's not a level that is going to create new wrestling fans. That's what the "IT" factor is all about and the wrestling industry simply doesn't attract "IT" people like it used to. That's clear as crystal.

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Re: The Star Void: Maybe cool, creative guys just don't want to be wrestlers anymore?

I guess you could say the same with Big guys, I always wonder why the talents pulled from the Indies are not Big guys of old and I came to the conclusion that Big Guys in real life have MUCH better options on other professions rather than Wrestling..

the only exception is when there's a Big Guy who say didn't do well in Football and just go to wrestling because they literally have no other choice..

Because if this were not the case we would see and Equal amount of Big Guys in the Independent pool as Smaller gys, but no the smaller guys have the Bigger guys outnumbered in the Indies..

I don't know what Braun's deal is but i'm almost willing to bet Wrestling wasn't his first love.. then there's the Corbins, Reigns, Tino and even Goldberg who were not as successful in Football.

Again Big Guys have more options in life so why Wrestle.
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Re: The Star Void: Maybe cool, creative guys just don't want to be wrestlers anymore?

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I guess you could say the same with Big guys, I always wonder why the talents pulled from the Indies are not Big guys of old and I came to the conclusion that Big Guys in real life have MUCH better options on other professions rather than Wrestling..

the only exception is when there's a Big Guy who say didn't do well in Football and just go to wrestling because they literally have no other choice..

Because if this were not the case we would see and Equal amount of Big Guys in the Independent pool as Smaller gys, but no the smaller guys have the Bigger guys outnumbered in the Indies..

I don't know what Braun's deal is but i'm almost willing to bet Wrestling wasn't his first love.. then there's the Corbins, Reigns, Tino and even Goldberg who were not as successful in Football.

Again Big Guys have more options in life so why Wrestle.
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yup but what happened they could have just pursued other careers with that resume.
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There are a lot less bonafide alpha males in the world than there were in the 90s. Brock is the only one on the roster that looks like he could stand next to previous generations and not look like a dork. And I say this as a 100% beta male.
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Re: The Star Void: Maybe cool, creative guys just don't want to be wrestlers anymore?

Who knows if there's a correlation, but there's a lot more of these "I've wanted to do this all my life" people than in the past. A lot of wrestlers back in the day just kinda fell into wrestling, it wasn't something they set out to do from a young age. Regardless, wanting to do it all your life doesn't mean you're any good at it.
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Re: The Star Void: Maybe cool, creative guys just don't want to be wrestlers anymore?

why do people care if a wrestlers passion wasnt wrestling when they grew up
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Re: The Star Void: Maybe cool, creative guys just don't want to be wrestlers anymore?

Wrestling at entry level doesn't pay half as well as a lot of other entry level sports jobs if you consider the time you put into it and how far away from home you are most of the time.

A lot of it comes down to that and the stigma of being a wrestler. Do you know how long it took for The Rock to become Dwayne Johnson? Years and years after not wrestling. Wrestlers have to work twice as hard to even think of using it as a stepping stone for something else. It was easier back then.
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Re: The Star Void: Maybe cool, creative guys just don't want to be wrestlers anymore?

You say that, but what the hell else are they doing?

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Re: The Star Void: Maybe cool, creative guys just don't want to be wrestlers anymore?

There could be something in that i can't dismiss it, however i have seen too many wrestlers come and go from the WWE who cme off so much better outside of this environment.

Goldberg was great on monday but trust me if he signed full time that aura would be destroyed in a couple of months and he would just be another guy on the roster like the rest. That speaks to the booking and how these people presented.

The only person to keep that aura even though some of it has been lost in the last year is Lesnar because he only turns up once every 3 months so the stench doesn't stick to him.

I will never blame the talent over the booking in this company, been watching the WWE too long and seen too much shit they have done.

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