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Then why do you think WWE are so high on him, AND, he has the fan support to show for it?
the crowd support of nxt and indie marks, whose opinion changes like the wind and will soon be rejecting him?

megastar ahahaha wow
lol let me let you in on a little secret.
Your guy was a worse version of Roman Reigns, at least Reigns is average in the ring. Your guy sucked and he was lucky enough to be friends with HHH who decided to end his reign of terror by losing 3 times clean to his "friend". That's why he was eaten alive by the crowd in 14. If the BOOKING of Batista in 2005 wasn't perfect, and added to fact HHH's reign of terror was killing RAW, he would have been Mason Ryan.

In other words, every ME of the past era Rey, Punk, Bryan, Cena, Orton, Edge, Jericho, Taker, Angle, Jeff Hardy >> Batista.

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lol let me let you in on a little secret.
Your guy was a worse version of Roman Reigns, at least Reigns is average in the ring. Your guy sucked and he was lucky enough to be friends with HHH who decided to end his reign of terror by losing 3 times clean to his "friend". That's why he was eaten alive by the crowd in 14. If the BOOKING of Batista in 2005 wasn't perfect, and added to fact HHH's reign of terror was killing RAW, he would have been Mason Ryan.

In other words, every ME of the past era Rey, Punk, Bryan, Cena, Orton, Edge, Jericho, Taker, Angle, Jeff Hardy >> Batista.
batista was a superstar mate, more than the lot of them with the exception of maybe taker and cena

you sound like a bitter little boy dont you, bitter that someone you dont like became a real superstar while your own favourites has amounted to jack shit

in a conversation about whether balor is a megastar (utter shite) you decide to attack a genuine superstar with a group of work rate geeks? fans like you have killed wrestling, killed it dead mate
workrate idiots and spot monkeys who never drew jack shit with the exception of taker and cena

the smarkiest of smark answers from you, you should be embarrassed
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In other words, every ME of the past era Rey, Punk, Bryan, Cena, Orton, Edge, Jericho, Taker, Angle, Jeff Hardy >> Batista.
Batista drew more dimes than any of them except Taker. Most of the guys now want to be Chris Jericho, but without the charisma and sharp mind he has for the business. The worst drawing champions were Benoit and Eddie (per Meltz). Benoit would have been a perfect fit for today's era. Malenko too.

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why do people care if a wrestlers passion wasnt wrestling when they grew up
This.

Honestly it's such a shame that there is this stigma surrounding not just wrestling but all forms of sports and entertainment that if you're in it to make money then your a bit of a sellout and money grabber. People love to forget that at the end of the day wrestling is a job for these guys and while yes you would want to watch people who love doing their job you have to understand that not everyone will but as long as they try who cares.

As for the actual question it's more down to booking than anything else. The WWE have a bunch of creative guys but they are limited in what they can do because Vince can't work out whether he wants wrestling to be presented as a real sport or as a soap drama.


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This.

Honestly it's such a shame that there is this stigma surrounding not just wrestling but all forms of sports and entertainment that if you're in it to make money then your a bit of a sellout and money grabber. People love to forget that at the end of the day wrestling is a job for these guys and while yes you would want to watch people who love doing their job you have to understand that not everyone will but as long as they try who cares.

As for the actual question it's more down to booking than anything else. The WWE have a bunch of creative guys but they are limited in what they can do because Vince can't work out whether he wants wrestling to be presented as a real sport or as a soap drama.
i agree that vince cant decide, though i also believe the fans can't decide either

lets use bryan as an example here and ill try not to be negative

fans call for a more sports presentation, therefore bryan should have never beaten triple h, batista orton or cena and never been the world heavyweight champion because hes not a heavyweight and would be physically dominated in a real situation
however the fans want those crazy underdog big man vs small man matches so there is a conflict there

other fans want the complete opposite, soap opera in which anything can happen, more of a tv show than a sports show
however they are then concerned about workrate, match quality and legitimacy
all things associated with real sports
so again there is a conflict as well

its a tricky position to be in
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batista was a superstar mate, more than the lot of them with the exception of maybe taker and cena

you sound like a bitter little boy dont you, bitter that someone you dont like became a real superstar while your own favourites has amounted to jack shit

in a conversation about whether balor is a megastar (utter shite) you decide to attack a genuine superstar with a group of work rate geeks? fans like you have killed wrestling, killed it dead mate
workrate idiots and spot monkeys who never drew jack shit with the exception of taker and cena

the smarkiest of smark answers from you, you should be embarrassed
Denying Balor's star potential is utter delusions by some you. He's got it all, and he'll prove it, time will tell.
My answer is the same, you can hate all you, fact of the matter is, we won. The real wrestling fans won. Batista's mediocre talent would never be accepted in this day and age. As proven. It's no longer the 90's so stop living in the past. We want talented all around guys. We don't want no talent only looks guys main eventing in mediocre programs.

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Batista drew more dimes than any of them except Taker. Most of the guys now want to be Chris Jericho, but without the charisma and sharp mind he has for the

more than Cena? Orton who has longevity over him? Edge who was in the AE and Face of SD for 3 business. The worst drawing champions were Benoit and Eddie (per Meltz). Benoit would have been a perfect fit for today's era. Malenko too.
years and who's RAW rating when he won the title the first time where highest in 5 years? Rey who sold tons more merch than him? Jericho, another star of the AE and charged with Carrying RAW everytime someone gets injured? Angle?
Batista drew in HIS PROGRAM with HHH. Because people were sick and tired of evolution and HHH's reign of terror wanting it to end, and to no shocker HHH drops it to only his friends and put him over, when others much more talented would have benefited from that rub too.


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Denying Balor's star potential is utter delusions by some you. He's got it all, and he'll prove it, time will tell.
My answer is the same, you can hate all you, fact of the matter is, we won. The real wrestling fans won. Batista's mediocre talent would never be accepted in this day and age. As proven. It's no longer the 90's so stop living in the past. We want talented all around guys. We don't want no talent only looks guys main eventing in mediocre programs.

years and who's RAW rating when he won the title the first time where highest in 5 years? Rey who sold tons more merch than him? Jericho, another star of the AE and charged with Carrying RAW everytime someone gets injured?
Batista drew in HIS PROGRAM with HHH. Because people were sick and tired of evolution and HHH's reign of terror wanting it to end, and to no shocker HHH drops it to only his friends and put him over, when others much more talented would have benefited from that rub too.
your right, you won, midgets and weaklings are all over the place these days and look at the state of professional wrestling now, down in the fucking dumps because of workrate muppets like you
"real wrestling fans" as you like to call it have murdered the business millions of people loved
what an obnoxious, pretentious idiot youve shown yourself to be
you can underestimate batistas in ring ability all you like, your wrong, great power moves and psychology and knew how much of a star he was

balors shite, 15 shite years on the independent scene and in new japan
killed the momentum of nxt, even your workrate loving friends agree on that

as for the rest the numbers dont lie, you can come up with all the conspiracy theories you like mate just continue being bitter

no talent hahaha if you were the judge of talent for the e theyd be roh now
you have no idea what talent is youve made that apparent
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Balor isn't a megastar. To say so would be factually incorrect.

A "megastar" would be The Rock.
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your right, you won, midgets and weaklings are all over the place these days and look at the state of professional wrestling now, down in the fucking dumps because of workrate muppets like you
"real wrestling fans" as you like to call it have murdered the business millions of people loved
what an obnoxious, pretentious idiot youve shown yourself to be
you can underestimate batistas in ring ability all you like, your wrong, great power moves and psychology and knew how much of a star he was

balors shite, 15 shite years on the independent scene and in new japan
killed the momentum of nxt, even your workrate loving friends agree on that

as for the rest the numbers dont lie, you can come up with all the conspiracy theories you like mate just continue being bitter

no talent hahaha if you were the judge of talent for the e theyd be roh now
you have no idea what talent is youve made that apparent
It's not Balor's fault he was stuck facing the same guy for 7 months..
Batista was good at portraying his character but he was bad in the ring and on the mic. Had Mason Ryan been friends with HHH, he could have been pushed similarly.

You can claim all you want it's the indy guys that killed the business, but fact of the matter is, it was dead long before them, and they are the saviors right now, they are the only reason it's still alive.

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