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So basically Cena is saying AJ is a bust for not having booking protection, something that is completely out of his control.
True but WWE always pretends that its real lol.
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True but WWE always pretends that its real lol.
It's disrespectful to AJ isn't it? The guy busts his ass out there only for his run in the WWE to be called a bust and treated like a guy who doesn't belong. Kofi brought up AJ taking years to get to the WWE on smackdown and then Cena did it again on Raw.
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It's disrespectful to AJ isn't it? The guy busts his ass out their only for his run in the WWE to be called a bust and treated like a guy who doesn't belong. Kofi brought up AJ taking years to get to the WWE on smackdown and then Cena did it again on Raw.
Yeah, but I imagine lots of cunts backstage are saying "he's 39, might retire after this contract ends, might get injured because of his workrate" etc.


These are the same cunts that made Rollins turn heel despite having a thunderous face pop....
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Yeah, but the only reason why Bryan even fought HHH at Mania 30, let alone won that match & the main event, was because Punk left.
The point isn't why it happened, the point is that 90% of WF were 100% sure that HHH was going to bury him.
90% thought Reigns was walking out of WM31 champ.
No-one thought Brock would break the streak.

There are no certainties, people shouldn't be criticized for not being negative.

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It's disrespectful to AJ isn't it? The guy busts his ass out there only for his run in the WWE to be called a bust and treated like a guy who doesn't belong. Kofi brought up AJ taking years to get to the WWE on smackdown and then Cena did it again on Raw.
It did take him years and it is the most obvious thing for a face to throw at him in a feud where he has just turned heel. Why would that be respectful to a guy who keeps attacking them?

It's low hanging fruit that has been used on probably every single guy who has ever come in as a big name from somewhere else.

What do you want Cena to do in his promos? Say the heel is better than him?


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The point isn't why it happened, the point is that 90% of WF were 100% sure that HHH was going to bury him.
90% thought Reigns was walking out of WM31 champ.
No-one thought Brock would break the streak.

There are no certainties, people shouldn't be criticized for not being negative.
Yes, but those were exceptions, not the norm. For every good surprise in WWE, you get at least 5 disappointments.
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The point isn't why it happened, the point is that 90% of WF were 100% sure that HHH was going to bury him.
90% thought Reigns was walking out of WM31 champ.
No-one thought Brock would break the streak.

There are no certainties, people shouldn't be criticized for not being negative.
Hm, I was around at that time. Nobody thought Lesner was winning (lol the feud was booked like shit) but lots thought that Bryan would at least reach the main event by getting through HHH, just to take the pin.

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The point isn't why it happened, the point is that 90% of WF were 100% sure that HHH was going to bury him.
90% thought Reigns was walking out of WM31 champ.
No-one thought Brock would break the streak.

There are no certainties, people shouldn't be criticized for not being negative.



It did take him years and it is the most obvious thing for a face to throw at him in a feud where he has just turned heel. Why would that be respectful to a guy who keeps attacking them?

It's low hanging fruit that has been used on probably every single guy who has ever come in as a big name from somewhere else.

What do you want Cena to do in his promos? Say the heel is better than him?
Cena went a step further and brought up AJ's record, those losses occurred when he was a face.

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Yes, but those were exceptions, not the norm. For every good surprise in WWE, you get at least 5 disappointments.
Fair enough, I think 1 to 5 sounds pretty accurate.
I just don't think people should be criticized for being positive / hopeful for change.

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Cena went a step further and brought up AJ's record, those losses occurred when he was a face.
So?

This is the dynamic of almost every face/heel feud with mic time ever. You shit on the other guy's accomplishments and highlight his failures whilst saying you are the man.

Do you remember any successful wrestler that doesn't do this?
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Re: AJ Styles is a bust, Vince has completely destroyed AJ and The Club within weeks

The funny thing, shit booking only makes me care for the person harder. He can fuck over AJ for the next 5 years, as long as he is on WWE TV I'm gonna be his fan, I don't care if you make him become Doink the ass kissing clown. WWE always has some master plan for their master race of golden butt boys. Beware. Just cause AJ gets to say Cena buries people on TV, just means Vince is allowing truth to come to light, but don't think for 1 second Vince is gonna ever open the lid and allow everyone "to keep it real".

Vince and WWE is only comparable to the Nazi regime. Instead of jews, they throw Canadians, and non-wwe creations into ovens, chop their manhood off, and keep them in camps (just look at bret he his salad was tossed). The only problem for Vince, as long as 1 person gets through to the people, it can make a timeless legend like Anne Frank aka Daniel Bryan. Ever wonder why no one even cares about Orton, but Dbry had his hooks in everyone....same thing is gonna happen, again.

Vince can try and sour Rollins, AJ, and Cesaro, he can take everyone who is naturally over and do whatever he wants to ruin them, or do whatever to keep Cena and Roman on top for casuals, there is nothing they could ever do, to get me to believe the bullshit they are selling.


This is 2016, fans are way too smart, and as much as ever, we want to be put into the fantasy and willing to cut around edges to just enjoy it. Its just funny when Vince thinks he has people tricked, they put their "I don't do bullshit" hats on. Roman has his first good match, and jump the gun and make him lead for title, even before Seth was hurt. Took about two weeks before the bullshit hat came on.

Don't be mistaken, this product hasn't changed. Yeah they tweaked a few minor things to give impression that its a land of opportunity, but its the same old bullshit system that basically crippled the promotion in 2015 to lowest RAW since 1997, that system is still in place.


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