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Official Match/DVD/Show Discussion Thread (And Stairs)

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Section got all screwy, here's the latest edition of the thread.

and STAIRS
 
#4 ·
Somehow I found the new thread in a reasonable time frame. Usually it takes me a few days to notice. :p

I guess for the completists out there (is that a word?), there's some exclusive action figures coming out for Roman Reigns and Randy Savage and they're gonna come with a bonus dvd. Here's the match listings:

Ultimate Fan Pack: Roman Reigns DVD (https://www.amazon.com/Roman-Reigns...li_ss_tl&ref_=pd_aw_fbt_21_img_2&tag=wdn0d-20)

5 Unforgettable Roman Reigns Matches!

– Roman Reigns & Seth Rollins vs. Kane & Daniel Bryan
– Roman Reigns vs. Mark Henry
– Roman Reigns vs. Bray Wyatt
– Roman Reigns vs. Daniel Bryan
– Roman Reigns Participates in a Battle Royal


Ultimate Fan Pack: Macho Man DVD (https://www.amazon.com/Macho-Ultima..._li_ss_tl&ref_=mp_s_a_1_1&sr=8-1&tag=wdn0d-20)

3 Unforgettable “Macho Man” Randy Savage Matches!

– Macho Man vs. Harley Race
– Macho Man & Bret Hart vs. Shawn Michaels & Ric Flair
– Macho Man vs. Arn Anderson


No dates given for the matches yet. For Roman, the tag match is probably the one from RAW that Cody loves and the match with Bray is probably from Battleground. Versus Bryan is obvious. Versus Henry could be from anywhere. Battle Royal is idk.
 
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No dates given for the matches yet. For Roman, the tag match is probably the one from RAW that Cody loves and the match with Bray is probably from Battleground. Versus Bryan is obvious. Versus Henry could be from anywhere. Battle Royal is idk.
That'll be neat. Suppose it's moot seeing how I can watch it on the Network anytime, but distribution for a fabulous match is always good.

I imagine the battle royal is the one he won to qualify for MITB in 2014.
 
#11 ·
Oh new thread, nice.

I've been doing a lot of downloading. I now have all WWE PPV's from 1987, 1988, 1989, 1999 and 2000. I'm currently downloading 1998, 2001 and 2002 at the moment too. I'll fill in the gaps day by day or when I can. I also have all WCW PPV's from 1989, 1990, 1991 and 1997. Same again, when I have time I'm pretty much getting everything. :mark:
 
#16 ·
Warning after typing this: long analysis here but figured I'd pop in here to sing the praises of Goldust/Orton for Cody Rhodes' job Raw match. I remember watching this when it happened and digging it, thinking it was a good match and then watching it again a few months later and liking it but I've watched this match twice these past two days this time watching tentatively/closely: and this isn't a good match: this is a great WWE styled match! Many minor, sometimes minute things that would be easily missed watching without a close eye that just make the story being told in the ring really pop! Sure, this was on the surface probably a good one anyway given bell to bell the crowd was already in the palm of the two's hands.

Still though: right out of the shoot Goldust with that look of pure focus knowing the task he has at hand and then rushing in with his offense and how Orton started his response with basic, low-effort, rudimentary offense right out of the gate telling a central part of this story with Randy thinking he was going to have an easy night knocking off this "old" and ring-rusted Goldust when Randy is the champ. A tune-up match in Randy's mind if you will. Then in our first "little detail" I just love how that basic approach doesn't work and as a result Randy got hard shots and when Randy rolled out first first he checks his teeth and just gives that great confused heel look and snarl physically saying "what the fuck just happened I expected a night off here" and then throwing out that cokcy "you're going back" line probably meaning it is futile and Orton then dialing in with more focus realizing that Goldie has a little more in the tank then calculated and Orton better take some heel shortcuts, which he smartly does.

Another thing that is just cool when you notice is after those hard "10 count punches" how the hot crowd finally absolutely quiets concerned for Goldust and then Orton with perfect timing gives that "Im going to enjoy this now" smile and knees Goldust's chest in then smirks while looking around the crowd before doing the Brock/Regal hand stomp to a recovering crawling opponents' hand and then that all is for not since Orton underestimated Goldy again thinking he was gonna close it out powerslam RKO only to nearly lose on the surprise pin. That second rollout where Orton regroups, tells Goldust Orton underestimated him, then as a heel rolls again to tell the ref "you tell him im going to kick his ass as soon as I choose to get in the ring " before cockily egging that hot crowd on with no chants... that was heel gold. When they got back in the ring I found it a nice touch by Dustin since he really doesn't have much of a gameplan out of emotion and ring rust to just flip Orton's earlier offense on him until Orton got the heelish upper hand.

I thought the close to this with Goldust hitting his old finish spurring his hope spot which the crowd really came for and intending on ending it with Cody's finish was a great little addition to this story too only for Goldy to lose to some cunning by Orton. I mean shit, even some extremely minute selling in this match like two Orton sells: one after Orton got his hand stomped on the ring steps, he for about four seconds moved his fingers rapidly to try and get some quick feeling and B. there is a spot where Orton got I think his head bounced outside and while selling pain he gives this huge swing in the air to add to the frustration of the whole story from his end of having a much harder earned win than anticipated. Usually the Lawler/Cole/JBL commentary is best on mute: but this was a rare job well done at the desk and probably the best job I've heard that trio do.

Point is: add everyhting up when watching close and this really is a great match. Better too: there was ZERO flashy moves this whole match and they added up these simple yet great parts alongside that hot crowd to carve this stellar story. Easily one of Randy's finest individual efforts of this current decade and a very fine singles notch for the Goldust run.
 
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So I am finally making my way through 2012, watched The Rumble and EC yesterday. Both weren't that good, the rumble was full of jobbers, Ricardo coming out was pretty funny though I thought. I'm gonna start Mania shortly. What are some matches, feuds, ppv's I have to look forward to for 2012? I wasn't watching the product at this time so I really don't know much of anything that happened.
 
#28 ·
Sweet, hopefully I'll find some stuff throughout this year I like. 2010 and 2011 were decent at best, not much stood out to me that I really really liked. Hopefully 12 and 13 are better. Looking forward to seeing more of Bryan and Brock back. I'm pretty sure I read at some point Evolution reformed? Generally speaking, how was that? Did Batista make a return at some point? Anything memorable or noteworthy with him?
 
#29 ·
The Evolution reformation was a bust, if you ask me. Maybe it popped for some others, but the segments were eh unless The Shield was making me care here and there. At least their whole goal was to put The Shield over, despite the eventual crumble. Matches were very, very dull. Which was indicative of Trips & company trying to make The Shield work their match, not the other way around.

EDIT: Noteworthy 2014 Batista stuff was mostly only the Triple Threat @ WM vs Orton & Danielson and a singles match vs Sheamus on SD. They had two iirc, but it was their second outing that was good. I should find you a date to be sure. My two cents, avoid the Batista vs Dolph tripe. The No DQ match in particular is a train-wreck.
 
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This is ironic given I'm watching Mania 29 right now as part of my own Recent WWE catch up. Only ironic b/c I haven't watched any "catch up" stuff in weeks. Write up incoming in 9 more weeks.

WWE still haven't put 2013 NXT on the network, have they? Huge bummer.
 
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Cool, thanks for all the feedback! I've been an avid wrestling fan since I was kid, and started watching during the attitude era in 98. Around early 2011 I just quit watching up until late last year/January of this year. I have a huge did collection and had a gap from MITB 2011 to current, I'm caught up to WM28 I believe, whatever Mania for 2012. I will continue watching through until I get to the current product. So a lot of this stuff is new to me. I obviously know who people are now, but I didn't see the debuts of the Shield, or Brock coming back, I missed pretty much all of Byans career, have no clue when the Wyatts came in, idk what happened to Mysterio (I know he's in Lucha Underground) but idk his departure from wwe, I'm not quite sure when Punk left or why, from what I read it's apparent he won't come back, I also see some things on the Network while scrolling through shows, looks like the Rock got a title run at some point so I'm assuming he had more matches than the 2 with Cena at WM, and I want to say I read a description for one show where RVD was on the card? Did he make a return? I was always a fan of his, I knew he went to TNA, but I didn't watch them either during this time. So as you can see I've missed some stuff, but I like getting an idea of what to look out for.
 
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Interesting by the way that I presume Dana and Vince are doing a one-off talent exchange I am going to guess a Brock fight in exchange for allowing Rousey a match to help augment the merits of this "Diva Revolution" as they bill it (in actuality not much of a revolution if you ask me). Still though, on the off chance that Brock's never ceasing insane competitive fires have called him again, somehow Brock has gotten out of that contract he recently inked and he is actually looking for a run here: he leaves us with certainly a very interesting mixed bag of results and I haven't seen the first HHH/Brock match and don't remember

The great and tremendous:
An individual effort for the ages leading to the finish be damned extremely captivating ER 2012 I have at ****3/4
The tremendous Punk match at SS 13 I have at the same rating (I know many of you go the full five and I nearly do too but a tad too much Heyman does slightly take away imo.)
Cena/Seth/Brock playing Jason Voorhese the most entertained by a match I was in 2014 even though it has its substance faults. ****1/4
The very interesting and shocking basically squash of slightly behind Sammartino the longest franchise guy ****
The fun, hard hitting and good Brock mix of heel prick and smashmout beast Mania match vs Reigns I have at ****

The good/solid:
Taker/Brock Summerslam ***3/4
Even with it's oddities and I thought it told the wrong story: I had Cena/Brock NOC at ***1/4
Sheamus/Brock while quick was a fun hard hitter
I thought Battleground was solid enough albeit I never got a proper rating out of that

The average or not so good:
Obviously, Taker's concussion blew up WM 30 match even though it is an all timer in the history books and the scene of 70,000 fans going silent in shock simultaneously is a sight I will never forget (note: Brock himself thought he went deaf I can only imagine being in his shoes at that moment)
Sadly, the Rollins match wasn't given the time to be anywhere near what it could be
vs Ambrose WM 32 was a dissapointment I had I think at like **
I thought Brock/Trips WM was middling **1/2
That Brock/Trips cage match wasn't a good outing imo. Brock constantly screaming in pain wreaks of Hunter.
Roadblock I suppose was to be expected for a switch but still not what it could be
Show/Lesnar was nothing more than segments
 
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