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Chris Benoit vs. Mr Kennedy - WWE Friday Night Smackdown 12/01/2007
This was so, so boring. Benoit tried but ultimately failed to get anything out of Kennedy. Kennedy was a bore on offence and looked so uncoordinated. Chavo coming out for the interference made the entire match pointless. Now I wouldn't have minded if the match was interesting but it really wasn't. *1/2

Chris Benoit vs Chavo Guerrero - WWE Friday Night Smackdown 19/01/2007 [WWE United States Title Match]

One thing off the bat is the feeling of hatred. Chavo is a great heel when it comes to his work. He comes across as so petty in whatever he does and it works in his favour. Chavo beats Benoit with the steel chair and goes to town on his arm with it. Usually, Benoit’s game but it gets turned on him, another great hook of the match. Benoit sells it really well early on. Really draws you in. Chavo does an awesome spot where he does the three amigos onto the US title belt and the steel chair. Even better when he misses a frog splash and lands of the chair he used. Benoit locks on the sharpshooter because his arm being worked on meant he couldn’t lock on the crossface and again, Chavo ruled because he is crawling towards the chair, the clutch he has been using all match and he has to tap before he can use it. Great stuff. ***3/4

Edge vs Shawn Michaels - WWE Raw 22/01/2007 [Street Fight]
With HHH gone at New Year’s Revolution, Shawn Michaels is left on his own to finish off the DX vs Rated RKO feud. After last week’s attack (I think) with Edge and Orton blooding HBK up, HBK is out for revenge. So we got a street fight with him going against Edge.

No normal Shawn Michaels routine for the entrance. Goes right for Edge early on, which is good although I do love striptease in my wrestling. Shawn ruins the moment by throwing some god awful punches. Oh well. One of the main tropes mid-2000s main events was the constant blood baths, only in this case, we don’t actually get to see what caused the blood. They do more weapon spots but they are all sold really badly with Edge at one point blowing off a slam on the ladder only to get slammed through the ladder again by Shawn Michaels off the top rope after a superplex attempt. Shawn Michaels tries to portray anger, I think, but it comes off so goofy with the facial expressions that make him look on the verge of tears, and an old man Terry Funk impression, which is done so poorly to the point of parody. Edge is bad, as per usual, botching lifting HBK on his shoulders and having his usual awful looking offence. Overall, this was a very soulless, generic street fight with two bad performances. *3/4

The ECW Originals (Rob Van Dam, Sabu, The Sandman & Tommy Dreamer) vs. The New Breed (Elijah Burke, Kevin Thorn, Marcus Cor Von & Matt Striker - WWE ECW 03/04/2007 [Extreme Rules Eight Man Tag Team Match]
Fantastic match. The match started off as a normal match but soon rose in intensity at an alarming rate. You might have well taken Dreamer and Sandman out because they did nothing. Sabu and RVD blew me away with their performance. The New Breed looked phenomenal too. Great stuff. ****

Brian Kendrick & Paul London vs. Chavo Guerrero & Gregory Helms - WWE Friday Night Smackdown 06/04/2007
Pretty decent match by the tag champions. There was a ton of fun, faced paced spot. The crowd was on their feet for the match. Nothing that I'll leave a big impact on people but entertaining nonetheless. Deuce and Domino coming out were interesting. A good showcase for the tag champions for their tag team championship title match next week. ***
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WWF “Royal Rumble”
January 19th, 1992
From the Knickerbocker Arena in Albany, New York
Commentators: Gorilla Monsoon and Bobby “the Brain” Heenan

Tonight: the Vacant WWF Heavyweight Championship is up for grabs in the Royal Rumble!

The Orient Express vs. The New Foundation
This was a good match that was completely carried by Owen Hart.
Winners: the New Foundation

Recap of Bret Hart recently losing the WWF Intercontinental Championship to the Mountie.

The Mountie cuts a promo.

Rowdy Roddy Piper cuts one of the most nonsensical promos I’ve heard in my life.

For the WWF Intercontinental Championship
The Mountie (champion) w/Jimmy Hart vs. Rowdy Roddy Piper
This wasn’t the best match but the crowd was hot as hell the entire time.
Winner: Rowdy Roddy Piper

Hulk Hogan says there are no friends in the Royal Rumble.

The Bushwhackers cut a promo.

The Beverly Brothers w/the Genius vs. the Bushwhackers w/Jamison
This was a Bushwhacker match with the only difference being it went way too fucking long. Jamison was so terrible.
Winners: the Beverly Brothers

For the WWF Tag Team Championships
The Natural Disasters w/Jimmy Hart vs. the Legion of Doom (champions)
This was a good match that got out of hand very quickly and ended on a count-out.
Winners: the Natural Disasters via count-out

All the competitors in the Royal Rumble stake their claims.

The Royal Rumble for the WWF Heavyweight Championship
Featuring: The Barbarian, The Berzerker, The Big Boss Man, the British Bulldog, Col. Mustafa, Greg “the Hammer” Valentine, Hacksaw Jim Duggan, Haku, Hercules, Hulk Hogan, Irwin R. Schyster, Jake “the Snake” Roberts, Jerry Sags, Jimmy Snuka, Nikolai Volkoff, Randy Savage, Repo Man, Ric Flair, Rick Martel, Rowdy Roddy Piper, Sgt. Slaughter, Shawn Michaels, Sid Justice, Skinner, Ted Dibiase, The Texas Tornado, The Undertaker, The Warlord, Tito Santana and Virgil
You know how you watch current Royal Rumbles and most of the guys come out to crickets with the odd star here and there, maybe four or five actual stars during the whole match? This was the complete opposite. The crowd was nuclear for everyone, even the four or five “nobody’s” who came out. The match is incredible and deserving of the title of being one of the greatest matches of all time. The commentary makes it even better. I don’t need to sell this match to anyone.
Winner: Ric Flair
As with all Royal Rumbles the undercard of this match wasn’t very good. The first Tag Team Match was good and the Tag Team title match was going places until the lame ending. But this show is all about the Royal Rumble. It’s mandatory viewing for any wrestling fan and still holds up almost thirty years later.

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Benoit vs Chavo No DQ match rules. There were a handful of matches on that same Smackdown I liked. Hardy vs Mercury standing out with Matt Hardy still being maybe the best guy in WWE at the time.

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WWE “Hell in a Cell”
October 27th, 2013
From the American Airlines Arena in Miami, Florida
Commentators: Michael Cole, JBL and Jerry Lawler
Theme Song: Out of Time by Stone Temple Pilots

For the WWE Tag Team Championships
Cody Rhodes & Goldust (champions) vs. the Usos vs. the Shield
This was a really good, hot opener. I forget sometimes how good the Shield was together. Even Roman was awesome. Yes, Roman was awesome. Not “awesome” awesome but deserves better than he’s gotten in the years since this awesome.
Winners: Cody Rhodes & Goldust

Triple H and Shawn Michaels are talking backstage. Shawn Michaels looks like he’s pretending to laugh at Triple H’s jokes and when I read his lips it looks like he keeps saying, “yes Hunter, you’re my best friend too” over and over.

The Miz comes out calls Bray Wyatt out for a fight. The lights go off and Wyatt appears on the screen and tells Miz his words mean less than salt to him. The lights come back on and the rest of the Wyatt Family is in the ring. They beat the Miz up but Kane comes to his rescue. After he’s taken care of the Wyatts he Chokeslams the Miz too.

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Fandango & Summer Rae vs. the Great Khali & Natalya w/Hornswoggle
I can’t put my finger on who was worse in the ring here: Summer Rae or the Great Khali? I mean one’s a lumbering doofus who had no business being in a wrestling ring and the WWE is better off without them. The other was the Great Khali.
Winners: Fandango & Summer Rae (da fuck!?)

The kick-off panel (Josh Matthews, Dolph Ziggler, R-Truth and Kaitlyn) give their thoughts on the show so far. All two matches.

For the WWE United States Championship
Dean Ambrose (champion) vs. Big E Langston
I think the crowd was still so in awe of that last match that they needed to take a breath during this one. Big E took a head-butt under the eye towards the end that knocked him kind of silly so the ending was a bit of a mess. I felt bad for both of them. They worked hard but the crowd didn’t give a damn.
Winner: Big E Langston via countout

2 on 1 Handicapped Hell in a Cell Match
CM Punk vs. Ryback & Paul Heyman
This match started with Heyman taking a scissor lift to the top of the cell and taunting CM Punk. The match was slow and anticlimactic. Heyman never got off the top of the cage.
Winner: CM Punk
Afterwards Punk climbs to the top of the cell with kendo stick in hand and delivers a savage beating to Heyman.

Renee Young is backstage with Daniel Bryant, who wants a chance to prove he can be WWE champion.

Los Matadores w/el Torito vs. the Real Americans w/Zeb Coulter
All things considered this wasn’t as bad as it could have been.
Winners: Los Matadores

For the World Heavyweight Championship
Alberto Del Rio (champion) vs. John Cena
I could feel the crowd was even tired of SuperCena at this point in time. It was the same match we’ve seen a million times and the same finish.
Winner: John Cena (new World Heavyweight Champion)

Back to the pre-show panel.

For the WWE Divas Championship
AJ Lee (champion) w/Tamina vs. the Legendary Brie Bella w/the equally as Legendary Nikki Bella
This was a match.
Winner: AJ Lee

The Prime Time Players are playing WWE2K14 when Bob Backlund comes in and “Bob Backlunds”. They sell him on the game and then do the money dance.

Triple H readies Shawn Michaels for his job refereeing tonight’s main event.

Hell in the Cell Match for the Vacant WWE Championship
Special Referee: Shawn Michaels
Randy Orton vs. Daniel Bryant
This was actually not a bad match thanks to Daniel Bryant putting his body on the line but had another crap, corporate ending. I remember this storyline well and it was an important piece in the overall picture.
Winner: Randy Orton (new WWE Champion)
I don’t know what happened with this show. Yes, the mixed tag team match was bad. But it was no worse than any other mixed tag team match seen throughout the years. The crowd just completely DIED after it though. I’m talking complete silence during the US Championship Match. Maybe something else happened that wasn’t shown on camera? Maybe the arena ran out of popcorn? The crowd woke up during the John Cena Match but then the Divas Championship Match took them right back out of it. The main event did bring them back quite a bit but Daniel Bryant was pretty much God at this point in time.

It was a decent show. The first match was good, the main event was good. Everything else was just “there”.

It was October and pink had thrown up everywhere. I’m obviously not against the cause but WWE really overdid it here.

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WWE Judgement Day 20/05/2007

Carlito vs. Ric Flair
Old man Flair!! Shame it’s with Carlito, maybe one of the most overrated wrestlers ever. Not sure why people thought he was a star. He sucks. Anyway, Flair starts the match with his trademark chops so Carlito does the obvious thing and works on the left arm. Carlito tries to do keylock but he does it so poorly that it doesn’t look like he is putting any pressure on it. Flair sells it pretty well regardless and the fans cheer him on. In the process, Flair switches the chopping arm and goes with his right. Carlito continues on with his aimless armwork to almost no heat except a few woos here and there. Flair pops me a little by doing the Tenryu chop/punch spot before locking on the figure four for the win. And Flair stops selling the arm. Hilarious. Awful match that’s even more married down by an awful performance by Carlito. 1/2*

Shawn Michaels Promo
They show a replay of Orton punting HBK in the head before Orton attacks Michaels again. At least I know why they are fighting now.

ECW World Heavyweight Title Three On One Handicap Match - Shane McMahon, Umaga & Vince McMahon (c) vs. Bobby Lashley
This was pretty short. The story of the match is Lashley goes after Vince but when he does, Umaga or Shane beats on him. That last two minutes before Lashley wins. Okay. After the match, Umaga destroys Lashley building towards a match at One Night Stand. **

The Debut of the Concussion Face
A short segment with the doctor telling Shawn that he can’t go out to the ring tonight.

CM Punk vs. Elijah Burke
Punk has heavily taped. Not sure why as there were no video packages telling us why. I highly doubt the ratings were good enough for ECW that you wouldn’t need a video telling PPV buyers what happened. They play up a Mixed Martial Arts background for Punk, which is hilarious in hindsight and a boxing background for Burke. Suddenly there are a ton of empty seats, Lol. The match starts out pretty good with Burke potatoing Punk with some stiff punches and Punk give Burke his receipt. The match loses its focus a bit with both guys seemingly abandoning the ribs story and they begin to do random moves to each other. But then the match picks up a bit with a lovely superplex of the top rope by Punk. Burke, all match. threw some wickedly awesome body punches and Punk sells them really well. The finish wasn’t great either but I liked it. Cut out the awful 5-minute section where they forget what they are doing and think they are doing an exhibition showing off their cool moves (that didn’t look so cool in execution) and you got a really great match. ***1/4

Edge W/ Sharmell
There was a pretty funny line where Sharmell said Edge has been on a pretty roll lately and Edge responds with it was more than a roll whilst air-quoting “roll”. If only Edge did more comedy in his promos because he is hilarious and just gets comedy. The rest of the promo was fine.

Randy Orton vs. Shawn Michaels
Randy Orton getting a huge pop makes me smile. They tease Orton winning by forfeit before Shawn Michaels sadly comes out. And look, he has brought his concussion face with him. He looks like he has a hangover after a night of drinking and speed tablets. He has fallen off the wagon and the refs let him wrestle SMH. Orton beats up Shawn Michaels and spikes him with a draping DDT. He stays alive though. And yep, he still has the concussion face. Orton looks to end it with an RKO before changing his mind. No, it’s not an act of passion, he goes to hit an RKO on the ropes. Shawn makes a short comeback before collapsing in the midst of hitting a superkick in hilarious fashion. The ref calls it. Well, it was short and mostly used for an angle. Not much more you can ask. Orton does an ultimate dick move and punts HBK one more time and leaves. **

World Tag Team Title Match - The Hardys (Jeff Hardy & Matt Hardy) (c) vs. Lance Cade & Trevor Murdoch
Not sure why the SD commentators are commentating a Raw title match but whatever. The match follows up from their previous match at Backlash. The challengers work over the Hardys and go a fine job of doing it. Some clever work to keep control. Matt Hardy, for some reason, is feeling extra stiff with his strikes. I like it. Good finish for the Hardys wins too. Nice handshake to end the match. I expected Murdoch and Cade to attack them from behind afterwards but nope. A nice change. ***1/2

World Heavyweight Title Match - Edge (c) vs. Batista
There is a video package before the match highlighting Edge’s career so far. Ozzy Osbourne plays with it. Batista has a line. We move on. Not a huge fan of either guy but I’ll listen to both guys entrance music all day, Edge especially. Batista shows his smarts by running out and jumping about on the stage, all while having a taped up leg. I’m not going to call him out for bad selling because I think he just genuinely forgot about his leg. I’ll forgive him for it because aw. One thing about this match I really don’t get is the start of the match being structured about Batista injury his leg arm and Edge going after it when he has an injured leg right there. They even teased it with Batista running injured knee first into the stairs. And to make it funnier, they completely drop it almost instantly. The spot was Batista counters a spear by Edge with one of his own was pretty cool. The match rushed towards the finish however and after a few big Batista moves, Batista hits the spinebuster and sells his leg. It’s nice that he sold his leg but it came out of nowhere and the whole setup was illogical. Of course, it leads to Edge rolling up for the win. Awful finish to a rather inexplicable match. Edge hardly works on the leg, maybe once or twice, yet it leads into the finish. What?!!! Wrestling basics are just that, folks. DUD

WWE United States Title Best Two Out Of Three Falls Match - Chris Benoit (c) vs. Montel Vontavious Porter
Hmm, a two out of three falls match? Should be interesting. MVP did some interesting work on the knee of Benoit, going off Benoit having his knee beaten by Finlay last Smackdown. The work is a bit heatless though with the crowd not really caring too much for it but I like how it leads into the first fall finish of Benoit dropping MVP from an electric chair position into a position where MVP could hit the Playmaker. Benoit’s selling was great at least. Speaking of leg work, MVP uses the BROCK LOCK on Benoit no less. MVP takes advantage of the leg injury by blowing it to get out of a crossface and wins with a roll up to the shock of everyone. Benoit really put MVP over here, shame the crowd didn’t care a whole lot. ***

WWE Heavyweight Title Match - John Cena (c) vs. The Great Khali
Am I in for a Cena masterclass? Well, let’s find out. Our main event joke of the night by Jerry “Like I told my girlfriend, size does matter”. Oh, Jerry. Similar to the Umaga match, Cena does his stick and move approach with his body shots but Khali clobbers Cena with an almighty clothesline. Cena begins selling everything Khali does to him like a boss. Everything looks devastating, which is essential for someone the size of Khali. Cena gets a bad rap for no selling everything when on offence but right, he still is selling the damage when trying to get some offence in, allowing Khali to easily regain control. Jim Ross has his line of the night “he [Khali] is literally blocking out the sun”. Literally Jimmy? There is an awesome spot where Cena breaks out of a nerve grip and shoulder blocks Khali into the ropes, which he gets caught him. The crowd pops big too. The finish was great. Cena thinks on his feet when Khali is coming towards him on the outside and dropkicks the steps into Khali’s knee. Khali injuries his knee so when he gets in the ring, he struggles to get to his feet and Cena hits a dropkick off the top rope and locks in the STFU for the win. Khali’s foot was under the rope but that doesn't matter right now. The crowd go nuts for Cena. Great finish to a really good match. ***1/2

I think I like this show much more than most would. There were a few shite matches like the opener and Edge vs Batista. But the main event was good and the tag match too. A decent angle too, that’ll pay off come November. Good stuff. Best To Worst: John Cena (c) vs. The Great Khali - [***1/2]. The Hardys vs. Lance Cade & Trevor Murdoch - [***1/2]. CM Punk vs. Elijah Burke - [***1/4]. Chris Benoit vs. Montel Vontavious Porter - [***]. Shane McMahon, Umaga & Vince McMahon vs. Bobby Lashley - [**]. Randy Orton vs. Shawn Michaels - [**]. Carlito vs. Ric Flair - [1/2*]. Edge vs. Batista - [DUD]

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WWF “Backlash”
April 30th, 2000
From the MCI Center in Washington, DC
Commentators: Jim Ross and Jerry Lawler

Tonight: the Rock has Stone Cold Steve Austin in his corner as he faces Triple H for the WWF Championship. However the odds are still stacked against the Rock because Vince McMahon is in Triple Hs corner and Shane McMahon is the special referee. Is Stone Cold really on the Rocks side? Will he even be there?

Also, six titles are on the line.

De-bra comes out to act as special guest ring announcer for the first match. My oldest son thought she did a great job.

For the WWF Tag Team Championships
D Generation-X w/Tori vs. Edge & Christian (champions)
This was a really good match. X-Pac seemed a little out of it. He delivered the most “who gives a fuck?” Bronco Buster I’ve ever seen. And the ending was pretty wonky. X-Pac bladed hard right at the end and there was blood all over the ring for the rest of the show. Seems like a lot of effort for zero reason.
Winners: Edge & Christian

The Rock arrives backstage.

For the WWF Light Heavyweight Championship
Scotty 2 Hotty vs. Dean Malenko (champion)
This was a good match but Dean Malenkos style didn’t really gel with the audience at the time. He’d have owned it in Ring of Honor five years later.
Winner: Dean Malenko

The McMahons are backstage with Pat Patterson and Gerald Briscoe. Vince tells them tonight it’s “all hands on deck”.

The Big Bossman & Bull Buchanan vs. the Acolytes
The Acolytes were in the midst of their transition to the A.P.A. at this time. This was a decent “big man match”. Pretty stiff.
Winners: the Big Bossman & Bull Buchanan

The Hardy Boyz are backstage getting ready for their match.

Hardcore Holly and Crash are getting ready for their match.

For the WWF Hardcore Championship
Crash Holly (champion) vs. Tazz vs. Matt Hardy vs. Jeff Harvey vs. Hardcore Holly vs. Perry Saturn
I think this match had some “Crash must be pinned to get the belt” stipulation or something. You know what? This was really fucking fun to watch. It did run a little too long though. The only sad thing about this was seeing Tazz reduced to it.
Winner: Crash Holly

Jonathan Coachman interviews Shane McMahon.

Kurt Angle vs. the Big Show
This was during some angle where the Big Show was joking around and cosplaying, so he came out dressed like Hulk Hogan and wrestled like Hulk Hogan. The shorts didn’t leave much to the imagination. His impersonation was spot-on but the match was not good.
Winner: the Big Show

Michael Cole interviews Trish Stratus and asks her how she really feels about Bubba Ray Dudley. Bubba is watching backstage on a monitor and he’s entranced by her.

Billy Corgan is in the front row.

The Dudley Boyz vs. T&A w/Trish Stratus
This was a fun match but nothing special.
Winners: T&A
Afterwards the Dudley Boyz are about to put Trish through a table but she starts making out with Bubba instead. He comes to his senses and does the right thing: he puts her through the table.

Eddie Guerrero and Chyna arrive.

For the WWF European Championship
Eddie Guerrero (champion) w/Chyna vs. Essa Rios w/Lita
Essa Rios had pay per view matches?! This was a good match that deserved more time.
Winner: Eddie Guerrero
Lita strips Chyna to her bra and panties but Chyna doesn’t seem phased.

Jonathan Coachman interviews Triple H and Vince McMahon.

Michael Cole interviews Chris Benoit.

For the WWF Intercontinental Championship
Chris Jericho vs. Chris Benoit (champion)
This was a really good match.
Winner: Chris Benoit via disqualification

Michael Cole interviews the Rock.

For the WWF Championship
Triple H (champion) w/Vince and Stephanie McMahon vs. the Rock
Special Referee: Shane McMahon
This was a good match but it was overshadowed by “where is Stone Cold?” He’d been gone almost eight months by this time and the audience was salivating for him. The ending was an overbooked mess but as was every ending of the time. Stone Cold did come out and laid everyone in Triple Hs corner out, before Linda McMahon came out with Earl Hebner to make things fair.
Winner: the Rock (new WWF Champion)
Stone Cold shares a beer with the Rock.
You know, I’m usually one of the first people that shits on the Attitude Era and its focus on tacky, over-booked storylines over in-ring competition. But I had a lot of fucking fun watching this show and the ring work was mostly really good. I do look at 2000 in a much different light than late-1998 or 1999. The tacky shit was still there (Trish Stratus, Bubba Ray Dudley putting women through tables, the Kings commentary) but I see 2000 as the year where it started tapering off. Vince Russo was gone by this point.

Do I miss it? I do miss the overall electric excitement that shows had back then. I miss caring. But I don’t miss the style. I barely ever watch anything from this time so it was a nice change but it’s not something I plan on watching too often.

Watching a show before concussion protocol and wellness policies became a thing was kinda awkward but also entertaining. The guys all went all-out. Even Scotty 2 Hotty took a nasty DDT off the top rope. It’s unfortunate how most of these guys lives were ruined by this style of wrestling.

The only title not defended on this show: the Women’s Championship, which was held by Stephanie McMahon at the time.

I don’t know who “Falk” is, but according to a sign that was visible in the second row for the first few matches he is gay.

Overall it was a really good show. None of the matches were five-star classics but there weren’t any abominable duds either, except the Big Show verses Kurt Angle. The Stone Cold stuff was just a tease really. But the show didn’t even need him. It sort of changed my outlook on the era and brought back a lot of memories I’d forgotten.

Yeah, PG-13 was way better.

WWE “Elimination Chamber”
February 21st, 2010
From the Scottrade Center in St. Louis, Missouri
Commentators: Michael Cole, Jerry Lawler and Matt Striker
Theme Song: Rise Up by Cypress Hill

Elimination Chamber Match for the WWE Championship
John Cena vs. Ted Dibiase vs. Randy Orton vs. Triple H vs. Kofi Kingston vs. Sheamus (champion)
This was a good match. Everyone looked really good.
Winner: John Cena (new WWE Champion)

As soon as the match is over Vince McMahon tells John Cena he has to defend the WWE Championship against Batista…RIGHT NOW

For the WWE Championship
John Cena (champion) vs. Batista
This went as expected. Wait, it was Cena going up against the odds. This went the total different direction I expected it to.
Winner: Batista (new WWE champion)

Recap of Bret Hart’s car accident at Raw last Monday.

For the WWE Intercontinental Championship
Drew McIntyre (champion) vs. Kane
This match did a great job of completely killing the crowd. Drew McIntyre looked like a thirteen year-old.
Winner: Drew McIntyre

Gail Kim is walking backstage when Maryse comes up to her and says a bunch of stuff in French. Gail informs her that she can speak French.

Gail Kim and Maryse come out for the final match for the WWE Divas Championship Tournament but Vickie Guerrero decides to postpone it and make a Tag Team Match, PLAYA.

Maryse & Gail Kim vs. LayCool
Winner: LayCool

Josh Matthews promotes the new show NXT, which starts this Tuesday. He brings out the Miz, who will be mentoring some guy named “Daniel Bryant”. MVP comes out and tells the Miz to get ready for their match.

William Regal comes out and promotes NXT. Edge comes out and Spears him.

For the WWE United States Championship
The Miz (champion) w/the Big Show vs. MVP w/Mark Henry
The other night I was watching a current WWE pay per view (Money in the Bank 2019) and something dawned on me: I have always hated the Miz. He’s terrible. He’s annoying. I just want to see him lose.
Winner: the Miz

Elimination Chamber for the World Heavyweight Championship
Rey Mysterio vs. John Morrison vs. Chris Jericho vs. the Undertaker (champion) vs. CM Punk vs. R-Truth
I liked the Undertaker playing a more uncaged, angry character here than the usual walking corpse. He should have done that more often. He was scarier. This was good but I DID NOT like the ending when Shawn Michaels broke into the cage and cost the Undertaker the match.
Winner: Chris Jericho (new World Heavyweight Champion)
The Elimination Chamber matches on this show were good but the undercard was pretty weak. The crowd was dead too. But I can solely put the blame on that being the wrong Elimination Chamber Match going on first. The ending of the first one with Batista really drained the crowd of all their life and energy way too early.

A lot of the going ons in this show like Batista getting the immediate title show, whatever was going on with the Divas and the “new” show NXT really don’t lend themselves to watching the show nine years later and not being familiar with all the storylines. I even had to think for a second what the deal with Shawn Michaels coming out was all about, then I remembered that he and the Undertaker had a match a month later at Wrestlemania.

I found out after watching this show that the Undertaker was engulfed in flames and burnt three times during his entrance due to a pyrotechnics accident. That…sort of explains why he came into the match looking much angrier than usual.


“United We Slam: the Best of the Great American Bash”
Hosted by Dusty Rhodes

From Charlotte, North Carolina on July 1985
For the NWA World Heavyweight Championship
Nikita Koloff w/Ivan Koloff vs. Ric Flair (champion)
There was canned commentary from Dusty Rhodes and Larry Zbyszko during this match and it took me out of it right from the get go. It was a good match but they didn’t even really talk about the match itself too much so I wasn’t paying attention. They were really critical of Nikita and his skill set in the ring. That was kinda funny. Actually, they were both really good but their commentary had nothing to do with the match. What I did pay attention to of the match was good. A fan ran into the ring.
Winner: Ric Flair

From Greensborough, North Carolina in July 1986
To determine the number one contenders for the NWA World Tag Team Championships
Ole Anderson & Arn Anderson vs. the Rock and Roll Express
There was canned commentary in this match too but it was actually really good. It focused a bit more on the match, which itself was pretty good.
Winners: time expires

From Charlotte, North Carolina on July 26th, 1986
Steel Cage Match for the NWA World Heavyweight Championship
Dusty Rhodes vs. Ric Flair (champion)
There was post-recorded commentary for this match but it was more along the lines of the type I hate. It was Dusty Rhodes, Michael Graham and some WWE talking head (I never caught his name) and it was torture. I think it was recorded years before this DVD came out because Michael Graham died in 2012, the DVD came out in 2015. The match was really good.
Winner: Dusty Rhodes (new NWA World Heavyweight Champion)

From Atlanta, Georgia in July 1987
War Games
The Four Horsemen (Ric Flair, Arn Anderson, Tully Blanchard, Lex Luger and JJ Dillon) vs. Dusty Rhodes, Nikita Koloff, the Road Warriors & Paul Elring
The original commentary was used during this match but it was such poor quality I almost wished they’d have piped a clueless Michael Cole and Abraham Washington in. I’m not a huge fan of War Games matches and this is one of my least favourite.
Winners: Dusty Rhodes, Nikita Koloff, the Road Warriors & Paul Elring

From Charlotte, North Carolina in July 1988
The Road Warriors w/Paul Ellering vs. Sting & Lex Luger
This was good.
Winners: double count out

From Baltimore, Maryland on July 23rd, 1989
For the WCW Unites States Championship
The Great Muta w/Gary Hart vs. Sting (champion) w/Eddie Gilbert
My attention waned for a few minutes during this one and then it match was over. Disappointing.
Winner: double pin

From Baltimore, Maryland on July 23rd, 1989
For the NWA World Heavyweight Championship
Terry Funk w/Gary Hart vs. Ric Flair (champion)
This was a good match but another I think could’ve gone way longer.
Winner: Ric Flair
After the match the Great Muta attacks Flair and spits green mist in his face. The combination of blood and mist covering Flair make for quite the visual.

From Baltimore, Maryland on July 7th, 1990
For the NWA World Heavyweight Championship
Sting w/rat-tail vs. Ric Flair (champion)
This was a good match but Stings rat-tail was better.
Winner: Sting (new NWA World Heavyweight Champion)

From Baltimore, Maryland on July 7th, 1990
The Freebirds vs. the Steiner Brothers
The Freebirds looked stupid here. I don’t know much about their history but what the hell happened to them? What’s up with the makeup? This was a good match.
Winners: the Steiner Brothers

From Albany, Georgia on July 12th, 1992
Quarter Final Match in the Tournament for the NWA Tag Team Championships
Rick Rude & Steve Austin w/Medusa vs. Dustin Rhodes & Barry Windham
I couldn’t take my eyes off this guy in the front rows incredible neon yellow hat during this match. I tried snapping a picture but he took it off in the first few minutes; as if he knew that twenty-five years later a fat old dude would be sitting in his basement mocking him on some message board. This was a good match but it felt to me like it went on five minutes too long.
Winner: Dustin Rhodes & Barry Windham

From Albany, Georgia on July 12th, 1992
For the WCW World Heavyweight Championship
Vader w/Harley Race vs. Sting (champion)
This was a good match but my attention again waned.
Winner: Vader (new WCW World Heavyweight Champion)

From Dayton, Ohio on June 18th, 1995
Ric Flair vs. “Macho Man” Randy Savage w/Angelo Poffo
This was a really good match. There was a lot of added rage with Savage wanting to get redemption for his father.
Winner: Ric Flair

June 16th, 1996: Eric Bischoff gives the Outsiders their answer: they’re getting their match at Bash at the Beach on July 7th, 1996. The Outsiders ask who WCWs three men will be? Bischoff can’t tell them so he gets Powerbombed off the stage. I’m interested at how this angle played out.

From Moline, Illinois on June 15th, 1997
“Anything Goes”
“Macho Man” Randy Savage w/Miss Elizabeth vs. Diamond Dallas Page w/Kimberly
If I’ve said it once I’ve said it a million times before; Elizabeth was so hot in WCW. So hot! This was another good brawling match until the end when it became another nWo finish.
Winner: “Macho Man” Randy Savage

From Moline, Illinois on June 15th, 1997
Psychosis w/Sunny Ohno vs. Ultimate Dragon
This was a really good match. Ultimo Dragon was really damn good but so was Psychosis. I bet in a better environment these two could have a wicked match. I bet they have but I don’t know how to find it.
Winner: Ultimate Dragon

From Baltimore, Maryland on June 14th, 1998
Chaco Guerrero Jr. vs. Eddie Guerrero
This was a good match but I found the camera angles really annoying. They were at least on the wrestling (Kevin Dunn) but there were to man close, “in your face” angles. The crowd was totally not interested in this match. They started chanting “we want Flair” and singing the “na-na-na-na, goodbye” song during parts.
Winner: Chavo Guerrero Jr.

From Baltimore, Maryland on June 14th, 1998
For the vacant WCW Cruiserweight Championship
Chris Jericho vs. Dean Malenko
This was a decent match and at least the crowd was interested in this one. If the ending was any indication I think these two had much more intense matches later on.
Winner: Chris Jericho via disqualification

From Baltimore, Maryland on June 14th, 1998
“Macho Man” Randy Savage & Rowdy Roddy Piper vs. Hollywood Hogan & Bret Hart w/the Disciple
This wasn’t that great. I was expecting a turn from Randy Savage.
Winners: Hollywood Hogan & Bret Hart

Ambulance Match
From Baltimore, Maryland on June 11th, 2000
Mike Awesome vs. Diamond Dallas Page w/Chris Kanyon
This was a really weak ambulance match (as opposed to all those awesome ambulance matches I’ve seen) with some serious overbooking.
Winner: Mike Awesome

June 11th, 2000
For the WCW World Heavyweight Championship
Kevin Nash vs. Jeff Jarrett (champion)
Special Guest Bell Ringer: Konnan
Special Guest Timekeeper: Rey Mysterio Jr.
Special Guest Belt Keeper: Disqo
Special Guest Ring Announcer: Juventud Guererra
Special Guest Enforcer and Secondary Referee: the Cat
This wasn’t too bad. Much like every last match on a WCW DVD set it just made me sad. But unlike past years watching this today (2019) isn’t as sad as watching current WWE. It was cool when they went into the crowd but a little silly whenever the Filthy Animals got involved. It really fell apart in the final minutes.
Winner: Jeff Jarrett
I really didn’t enjoy this set that much and I don’t know why that was. I know the newly recorded commentary on the entire first disc totally took me out of every one of the matches. It took me almost eight months to work my way through this. I bought it in October or November 2018. It just never interested me like other sets do.

I swear I must have seen the 1989 Great American Bash in full sometime. Those two matches were really familiar.

There was so much canned music and doctored audio on this set.

God love Dusty Rhodes but his creations (War Games, the Great American Bash) really weren’t anything too special. I think the only person who really got excited over them was him.

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I heard the only match worth watching from Money in the Bank was Styles/Rollins so I just finished watching that. Firstly.... that video package, God damn. Why do I even get surprised any more? This is one thing WWE does better than anyone.

In terms of the match, is it true that this is the first time Seth and Styles have had a one on one match? That seems crazy to me with how quickly WWE burns through feuds, although I guess they have always been on separate brands. I did like though how they made that part of the story of their match. It was no TakeOver Main Event, the match was far too slow but it was certainly an above average match in the context of MR limitations. I liked the little post match angle and the Curb Stomp reversal into the Styles Clash was awesome.


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WWE “Backlash”
May 6th, 2018
From the Prudential Center in Newark, New Jersey
Commentators: Michael Cole, Corey Graves and Jonathan Coachman (Raw); Tom Phillips, Byron Saxton and Corey Graves (Smackdown Live!)

For the WWE Intercontinental Championship
The Miz vs. Seth Rollins (champion)
This was a really good match, as good a match as you’re ever going to see the Miz have. It’s possibly the best match I’ve seen Seth have too. I’m impressed.
Winner: Seth Rollins

For the WWE Raw Women’s Championship
Alexa Bliss vs. Nia Jax (champion)
I cannot feel sympathetic to Nia Jax in any way. And I like her. She just can’t work as a face. And Alexa Bliss...she’s mark-wank trash. I enjoyed Nia rag dolling Bliss but this was not good and it went about seven minutes too long.
Winner: Nia Jax
Renee Young interviewers Nia in the ring. Feel good moment!!!

BE A STAR!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Bruce Prichard podcast ad.

Recap of Roman Reigns Spearing Brock Lesnar through the cage at the Greatest Royal Rumble a week earlier.

Some girl is backstage with Samoa Joe. He says he's going to turn the Big Dog into a whimpering puppy.

For the WWE United States Championship
Randy Orton vs. Jeff Harvey (champion)
This was a match that happened.
Winner: Jeff Harvey

“Please don’t try this at home” ad.

Elias comes out to do his thing but is interrupted by the New Day, Rusev Day and Bobby Roode.

Daniel Bryant vs. Big cAss
This was uneventful.
Winner: Daniel Bryant

For the WWE Smackdown Live! Women’s Championship
Charlotte Flair w/o Balloon Implants vs. Carmella (champion)
Wow, as bad as Alexa Bliss is Carmella is ten times worse. I still enjoyed Charlotte at this point and had no problem rooting for her in this match. She worked circles around Carmella but this was an abomination because Carmella was in control for most of the match.
Winner: Carmella

No Disqualifications Match for the WWE Championship
Shinsuke Nakamura vs. AJ Styles (champion)
The stipulation was only in this match to accommodate that stupid Low Blow gimmick Nakamura had at the time. There were multiple low blows then the referee called the belt when neither could answer the ten count.
Winner: no contest

Braun Strowman & Lashley vs. Sami Zayn & Kevin Owens
This was filler at its finest. Its only purpose was to build Braun Strowman as an unstoppable monster who would go on to lose every big match he had for the rest of 2018.
Winners: Braun Strowman & Lashley

Samoa Joe vs. Roman Reigns
The crowd was firmly behind Joe at the start of this match but quickly turned on it. It’s hard not to blame them. The first half was a couple long rest holds and a few short flourishes of excitement. Joe dominated almost the entire match until...well, you know. It was probably worse than those classic SuperCena matches because at least the crowd weren’t getting up and leaving during those.
Winner: Roman Reigns
This was one of the first marathon pay per views and it DID NOT need to be three and a half hours long. Either of the women’s matches, the United States championship match, the Tag Team Match and the Elias segment could’ve been on Raw or Smackdown Live! that week. At least two of those should have been cut. Plus the first match was so good that everything afterwards had no interest. It’s good that they put it on first through because a tired, bored crowd didn’t deserve that match.

Long haired fan in the front row looked extra stupid tonight.

WWE “Judgment Day”
May 17th, 2009
From the Allstate Arena in Chicago, Illinois
Commentators: Michael Cole and Jerry Lawler (Raw), Jim Ross and Todd Grisham (Smackdown), Josh Mathews and Matt Striker (ECW)
Theme Song: Rescue Me by Buckcherry

CM Punk vs. Umaga
Umaga really just dominated Punk in this match. The only person I’ve ever seen dominate Punk like this was Mickey Gall. It was strange.
Winner: Umaga

Chavo Guerrero informs Vickie Guerrero that John Cena has been cleared to wrestle the Big Show tonight. The Big Show says it’s probably not good for business that Cena wrestle him. Edge comes in and doesn’t say anything.

For the ECW Championship
Jack Swagger vs. Christian (champion)
This was a bland as bland can be then *boom* it was over.
Winner: Christian

Edge leaves Vickie Guerrero’s dressing room and tells Chavo off.

Shelton Benjamin w/Charlie Haas vs. John Morrison
This was a good match but it just wasn’t the right time for it to happen. In any other promotion it would’ve gone over much better.
Winner: John Morrison

The Miz (possibly at his most annoying) comes out and calls John Cena out. Cena doesn’t answer so he insults local sports teams and calls out a substitute: some baseball player sitting in the front row. The baseball player doesn’t come to the ring so the Miz declares himself the winner of whatever the hell this was. Santino Marella comes out and does his shtick, which was way more entertaining than the Miz. In the end it doesn’t go so well for poor Santino. After the Miz leaves Chavo Guerrero comes out and Frog Splashes Santino.

Josh Mathews is with Chris Jericho, who feels there is a controversy against him.

For the WWE Intercontinental Championship
Rey Mysterio (champion) vs. Chris Jericho
This was a good match.
Winner: Rey Mysterio

For the WWE Championship
Randy Orton (champion) vs. Batista
This was okay but I find Orton in 2009 really earns the name “Borton”.
Winner: Batista via disqualification
Afterwards the rest Legacy attack Batista but Ric Flair comes to his rescue.

“Please Don’t Try This at Home”

The Big Show vs. John Cena
It’s incredible how in every show I watch from this era John Cenas matches are more eye rolling. This may have been the most face-palm worthy yet. He got pummelled for almost the entire match only to overcome the odds at the very end with an Attitude Adjustment. The only positive to this one was he at least wasn’t in the championship match.
Winner: John Cena

For the World Heavyweight Championship
Edge (champion) vs. Jeff Harvey
I was done with the show by this point. It was a decent match.
Winner: Edge
This show was crap. It didn’t even feel like a “b show”. So much was filler and even the main matches felt like they were just there to give everyone something to do. I checked the time during the Intercontinental Championship Match thinking it was well passed the halfway point of the show and it had only been an hour and fifteen minutes. It seems like they saved all the exciting stuff for the following months Extreme Rules pay per view (both titles changed hands and CM Punk cashed in his Money in the Bank briefcase). By the end of its run Judgment Day had a bad habit of being a really boring pay per view. I remember 2008’s was really boring too.

I will say the roster was especially stacked at this time. They had a full card with zero tag teams, only one lower card match and no Triple H, Shawn Michaels and Undertaker.

So the whole story with Edge and Vickie Guerrero was they were “married” at the time and were having marital problems.

I don’t know what happened but the WWE Network in Canada (which is notoriously crap) must be changing its content this week because we have a grand total of six pay per views to choose from right now: three Judgment Days, Wrestlemanias 35 and 25 and one Fastlane. We had maybe thirty last week. This unemployment I’m currently suffering from better end soon.

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Hi guys. I wanted to post this as a thread but I cant until I have 25 posts. I want to watch WCW on the WWE Network because I was always a WWE guy and have never actually sat down and watched WCW from the start. I'm wondering what would be a good point to start for the Monday Night Wars, and would I get away with just watching Nitro?? Would I need to watch WCW Thunder as well?
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