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Stop with this Reigns turning heel bullshit. If AJ were to win the best part about it would be Roman losing and losing cleanly. That won't be happening. Roman losing could actually help him. Put him back at the bottom and let fans organically grow to like him.
Organically grow lol. That's so corny and he's beyond that point. He did his organic growing in the Shield. No need to build him completely over when fans who use silly terms like "organically over" are going to call him unorganic regardless.

The idea that he needs to lose clean to get over is so silly. When wrestlers fans like you actually lose clean you complain. But of course losing clean is the remedy for the ones you don't like. Booking for fans like you isn't about kayfabe it's more about how you percieve shit backstage and out of kayfabe.
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Re: Aj Styles going over Reigns at payback opens up for alot of great stuff

Reigns doesn't need another stat padding reign. Let him stay champ for the next few monthscand gauge how business does with him as the FOTC.
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Re: Aj Styles going over Reigns at payback opens up for alot of great stuff

Yes, it would....


Which is exactly why it won't happen.
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Organically grow lol. That's so corny and he's beyond that point. He did his organic growing in the Shield. No need to build him completely over when fans who use silly terms like "organically over" are going to call him unorganic regardless.

The idea that he needs to lose clean to get over is so silly. When wrestlers fans like you actually lose clean you complain. But of course losing clean is the remedy for the ones you don't like. Booking for fans like you isn't about kayfabe it's more about how you percieve shit backstage and out of kayfabe.
In a business where you can go a decade of paying your does, maturing character, and jobbing I don't see how "organically grow" doesn't apply here. Reigns has been on the main roster not even five years. What back story does he have? We know that he was in The Shield and there was no leader of the three man squad. He barely spoke and usually delivered the final blow, or power bomb. Fans were gravitating to Roman Reigns, not Rollins, and certainly not Dean. It's how his whole over push started. Do I have to go over nearly four years of history for you?

Reigns got hot, and once they realized that The Shield were done, it was time. Roman's push started the moment Seth Rollins became HHH's bitch. Fans have rejected Reigns, or are you in denial of this? If Roman loses to AJ and shakes his hand at the end of the match I think it sends a different message to a certain group of fans. Styles is more over as a "face" than Roman is right now. Working on passing the title to AJ makes Roman look like a true pro. Now, I don't see Styles defeating Reigns clean. I see Anderson and Gallows coming down costing Roman the match. Again this leaves Styles looking like he was part of it. I could certainly see Roman and Styles vs Doc and Karl down the line after the PPV.
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In a business where you can go a decade of paying your does, maturing character, and jobbing I don't see how "organically grow" doesn't apply here. Reigns has been on the main roster not even five years. What back story does he have? We know that he was in The Shield and there was no leader of the three man squad. He barely spoke and usually delivered the final blow, or power bomb. Fans were gravitating to Roman Reigns, not Rollins, and certainly not Dean. It's how his whole over push started. Do I have to go over nearly four years of history for you?

Reigns got hot, and once they realized that The Shield were done, it was time. Roman's push started the moment Seth Rollins became HHH's bitch. Fans have rejected Reigns, or are you in denial of this? If Roman loses to AJ and shakes his hand at the end of the match I think it sends a different message to a certain group of fans. Styles is more over as a "face" than Roman is right now. Working on passing the title to AJ makes Roman look like a true pro. Now, I don't see Styles defeating Reigns clean. I see Anderson and Gallows coming down costing Roman the match. Again this leaves Styles looking like he was part of it. I could certainly see Roman and Styles vs Doc and Karl down the line after the PPV.
We know his back story in kayfabe he's a guy who got into the family business but wanted to carve his own legacy and not live off of his genetics. That's from the post Rumble Raw.

We also know being able to provide for his daughter is one of his motivating factors. That's in the Bray Wyatt feud.

We also know his ultimate goal is to be THEE GUY on his terms as seen from the Authroity feud until now.

He has organically grown in a kayfabe sense as we've uncovered more about him as time has gone on. But of course actually paying attention to what his character does would get in the way of being able to say people don't know who he is. And he has been over as a face, now he's over as a heel so they should align his character to represent that.

As far as losing to AJ and shaking his hand you and I both know that's not going to endure him to the "not organic" crowd. The moment he shakes his hand it will be "omg look at them trying to make us think he's a good sport about losing his spot" Reigns is under different rules. The "not organic" crowd shifts what his character should be doing at every turn.

1st it was can he even wrestle a singles match
2nd it was can he wrestle over 15 minutes
3rd it was can he add moves
4th was can he cut consistent good promos (still can't do that to be honest)
5th was he needs to be more vulnerable.
6th was why is he so vulnerable he needs to kick ass.
7th was why are they having this face beat up HHH why not just make him a heel

They need to just run with him as THEE GUY and if the fans want to Boo let them Boo him
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No thanks, Reigns already got two pointless short title reigns for no reason, he should have a few months and then pass it along.
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Re: Aj Styles going over Reigns at payback opens up for alot of great stuff

AJ aint going over Roman as Vince will make sure Roman wins
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At this point, Reigns is Vince's guy and has hitched his rocket to his ass.

The hope... the Hope is that AJ can get a good match out of Reigns. It might turn the crowd a bit if they go out and perform. It's kinda what happened in Philadelphia. This is the reason why you book the best wrestler in the business at a rowdy venue against your project. I feel the match will be pretty special to be honest. I'm pretty excited. But AJ's not winning. And I honestly don't mind that he won't be. If Reigns is to be "The Guy" he's got to have to have time at the top to prove it. They went through all this bullshit, a 2-3 month program between him and HHH.... only for him to drop the title in 4 weeks. There's no investment in that. This thing has to properly run it's course.

AJ's over and he actually has a group of faithful fans who will get behind him. His momentum won't be lost. This is also the reason why you book dusty finishes, screwjobs and run ins... a loss is a loss, but a protected loss still keeps his legitimacy.


I'm sure they already have him booked to win Money in the Bank... or at least something similar.
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Re: Aj Styles going over Reigns at payback opens up for alot of great stuff

judging by Raw, I'd say Bullet Club is clearly turning on Styles. Not necessarily joining Reigns, but just costing Styles the match.
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Ain't gonna happen. Styles loses Sunday night.

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