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The problem with the conspiracy theories though is if Vince is scared of Bryan over shadowing him why doesn't he put dean ambrose and other people over with the fans on the sidelines and have Roman just wrestle the heels?
"If" that conspiracy were true, I would imagine it would be because, as over as they are, they wouldn't threaten Reigns push the way a Bryan return would. I have never heard any of them get hijackings before, for example.



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I will say this, Bryan has been cleared by 3 top neurologists in the field now and still hasn't been cleared by WWE. This rules out his health as being the reason he's being kept out.

The only reasons left are the lawsuit that's currently pending against Dr Maroon for his incompetence in his handling of concussions in the NFL (he was even depicted as a villain in the recent Will Smith film for this reason), and some other "conspiracy" theory.

I was on board with the lawsuit being the reason he's not cleared until someone enlightened me on the fact that both Undertaker and Tommy Dreamer, who've had far more concussions and have permanently damaged brains, were cleared to work several televised shows and payperviews in 2015 while Bryan was still on the shelf and had already been cleared by the Arizona neurologist. Dreamer or Taker potentially getting concussed would certainly be used in that lawsuit case regardless of their celebrity levels (smaller in Dreamer's case and larger in Taker's), because it would be evidence of Maroon still treating concussions as if they were a minor headache.

Because Dreamer and Taker were cleared, this rules out the second excuse about Bryan being kept out because of the lawsuit. Logical deduction would only leave the "conspiracy" theories, so..

It most def. is because Vince doesnt want DB fans hijacking shows agains when the guy Vince wants is champion. Especially for three RRs in a row.

The real reason is because of this but Vince will spin it as DBs health concerns but we know damn well if this was Roman Reigns, he could have been cleared ages ago.
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"If" that conspiracy were true, I would imagine it would be because, as over as they are, they wouldn't threaten Reigns push the way a Bryan return would. I have never heard any of them get hijackings before, for example.
Well since the conspiracy paints Vince as a stubborn jackass which he is I find it hard to buy. Vince is a capitalist. A man who once let a ppv continue after Owens death so as not to lose money, covered up the murder of snukas girlfriend cause he was a star, covered up Pattersons indescretions with boys to avoid millions of dollars in lawsuits, so for a man so miserly, so in love with his money why would he sideline a cash cow? His pretty much milked his old cow in Cena to the point the only people that buy Cena milk (metaphor) is people who trust in the brand. I don't get why he wouldn't want to dry up Bryan cause he loves his non milk producing bull.

So it stands to reason if his love for Roman is that strong he should get rid of the rest of the herd. And for this theory to have plausibility we have to wait for Seth Rollins to return. He will be as over as Bryan as a face and generate a lot of cash. If his sidelined even when his healthy from his injury the theory is true
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The problem with the conspiracy theories though is if Vince is scared of Bryan over shadowing him why doesn't he put dean ambrose and other people over with the fans on the sidelines and have Roman just wrestle the heels?
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"If" that conspiracy were true, I would imagine it would be because, as over as they are, they wouldn't threaten Reigns push the way a Bryan return would. I have never heard any of them get hijackings before, for example.
I don't think they would anyway as they've never really been booked under as much oppression as Bryan went through on the screen. It seems like sometimes it is forgotten around here that the lead into WM 30 for Bryan probably was the finest piece of overall build and booking this company has laid out for a decade.

And Tommy, you do still need people to actually put on the show, Bryan was contributing nothing to Raw and Smackdown while he was on the shelf for so long so delaying his return is not quite on the scale of pulling active members off TV. Besides we all know Vince is well more than capable of pulling the rug out from under anyone he chooses at any time when it comes to character momentum.. More than capable and fully willing to destroy it on a dime. So pulling folks off of TV isn't that necessary.

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I don't think they would anyway as they've never really been booked under as much oppression as Bryan went through on the screen. It seems like sometimes it is forgetten around here that the lead into WM 30 for Bryan probably was the finest piece of overall build and booking this company has laid out for a decade.

And Tommy, you do still need people to actually put on the show, Bryan was contributing nothing to Raw and Smackdown while he was on the shelf for so long so delaying his return is not quite on the scale of pulling active members off TV. Besides we all know Vince is well more than capable of pulling the rug out from under anyone he chooses at any time when it comes to character momentum.. More than capable and fully willing to destroy it on a dime. So pulling folks off of TV isn't that necessary.
Like I said with thanos, Vince Is a capitalist who let the show go on after a wrestlers death, covered up snuka murdering his girlfriend, looked the other way with Patterson all to either prevent the loss of money or attain more. In the early 90s a time admittedly I wasn't watching did Vince ever hold back someone popular on the sidelines for lugers benefit?
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I can see why people would like to consider to possibility of WWE not clearing Daniel Bryan because they're scared he'll take the focus off Roman Reigns and it would probably make them feel easier about his health/situation. His fall is quite disappointing, but you can't blame anyone but himself and his style of wrestling.
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Like I said with thanos, Vince Is a capitalist who let the show go on after a wrestlers death, covered up snuka murdering his girlfriend, looked the other way with Patterson all to either prevent the loss of money or attain more. In the early 90s a time admittedly I wasn't watching did Vince ever hold back someone popular on the sidelines for lugers benefit?
I honestly don't know about the Luger years and who else was popular around him, like I said a few posts up, there was a long stretch I didn't watch and a lot I don't remember anymore. Don't kid yourslef though, Vince is also quite willing to seemingly throw money away when it suits his mood.

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It's not so much about future lawsuits from the wrestlers (since they have them sign wavers to protect WWE), it's to do with the current lawsuits pending against Dr Maroon for his previous incompetence and WWE from Big Vito. This means that clearing Taker or Dreamer instantly bolsters the current lawsuits' cases against WWE and Maroon.

The fact that they cleared them and not Bryan who has a far healthy brain, can refute that lawsuit argument.
Who says Bryan has a healthier brain ?
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I honestly don't know about the Luger years and who else was popular around him, like I said a few posts up, there was a long stretch I didn't watch and a lot I don't remember anymore. Don't kid yourslef though, Vince is also quite willing to seemingly throw money away when it suits his mood.
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Bryan is the saving grace of the WWE lawsuit.

They WWE didn't care about Vito but they forced him to work with a concussion. Why?

They do care about the #2 guy in the company who ME WM30 but they'll never let him wrestle because he can't pass the WWE Doctors test.

Bryan not being cleared also helps Dr. Maron against any lawsuits against him from NFL players.

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