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It just makes no sense to me that you're okay with a short fat minor leaguer cleanly pinning the the face of the company but get upset that that same face is able to pin a cowardly heel a few times to get a "silver medal" off of him. Can you please link when you were upset that Dean Ambrose pinned champ Seth Rollins?

By your logic the champ should never lose because by definition the champ is above everyone else in the company and therefore if he loses it will have to be to someone "beneath" him.

Just admit it, you get upset when you're favorites lose. My little cousin gets the same way man it's not a big deal for people your age
Your flamebait crap isn't going to work on me, bro. Stop trying so hard lol.

I really don't think you read my post. I never said the champion shouldn't lose. He can lose, but only so many times until it hurts the prestige of the title. And Cena didn't just beat him a "few times". He beat him four. That's a lot considering he also made him tap out. If a wrestler is beaten that many times cleanly by another then it's obvious the guy who lost is the worse of the two. And I do come off like I'm attacking Cena and blaming him for everything, but it's the mentality that he needs to constantly win and hog the spotlight that is hurting the product. And that only plays a small part of the problem (but I won't go into everything else). The fact is WWE was pure shit in 2015 and 2016 doesn't look like it's going to be much better. I'm finally thinking that I'm going to tune out for good if I don't see the product getting any better.

Hell, just yesterday I was watching RVD vs Cena for the world title and the crowd was chanting, "Same old shit!". Granted it was the smark ECW crowd, but that speaks volumes to me at least. People were tired of his shit almost ten years ago. And there he is in 2015. Still destroying everyone. And I'm not going to fall for the illusion that he took a backseat this year when he clearly didn't. But if you can't see the problem with Cena hogging the spotlight for that long then I don't know what to say. Even if Austin, Punk, or Owens was on top for almost 15 years straight, I'd get bored of that shit. So again, it's not about picking favorites. It's about seeing the company change and develop which it hasn't and probably won't either.

But go ahead and post "Lol cry kid. Your fat hero lost". Troll some more. I've said what I've needed to say and the sad thing is, most of the shit I've pointed out was obvious as fuck. To build credibility, you don't have wrestlers lose cleanly in 15-20 seconds. To keep the prestige of the world championship, you don't have him lose 4 times cleanly and tap out to the US Champion. Simple basic fucking shit lol.

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Dude you can say all you want but Cena was a mid carder in 2015.
Maybe he was placed in the middle of the card (segments and matches-wise), but he still outshined the world champion and was still the "face that runs the place"...

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Hardcore and European titles should be brought back, and Cena should be further demoted to lowcard to feud with his "friend" Zack Ryder and other jobbers like Slater, Santino, Cesaro, Swagger etc
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Maybe he was placed in the middle of the card (segments and matches-wise), but he still outshined the world champion and was still the "face that runs the place"...
You need to understand that almost everyone in the main roster outshined the world champion (Rollins) Ambrose, Reigns, Cena ,heck! even The Big Show The New day and The Usos.
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Hardcore and European titles should be brought back, and Cena should be further demoted to lowcard to feud with his "friend" Zack Ryder and other jobbers like Slater, Santino, Cesaro, Swagger etc
Well, santino retired last year.
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Well, santino retired last year.
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Did you miss Slammys?
Cīmon man we all know he returned only to announce the winner of the LOL! moment, it was a one time deal.
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Unfortunately if they put the US title on Cena then he will outshine Reigns and the WHC just as he did with Seth Rollins. As long as Cena is around he is the seat filler. The seat filler is #1 in the WWEs book.
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