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Re: After Rollins and Roman 2:16, can we finally admit that Bryan WAS a ratings draw?

During Rollins' title reign, we were told that as soon as he was no longer the focus of the show, that ratings for Raw and general inteest in the product would increase significantly right away. Not only has that not happened, but the Ratings have fallen to an unthinkable level that they haven't ever fallen to in the history of this company. Now maybe those people have learned their lesson that NO ONE on the roster is a draw, including anyone that Vince is booking strong and thinks is his next top babyface.

Getting on Bryan's jock is funny, too. Pretty sure Vince would kill to have the ratings they had when he was on top.
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Re: After Rollins and Roman 2:16, can we finally admit that Bryan WAS a ratings draw?

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Was this ever disputed?


But with things like that, the same could be said for literally every other top star in existence. "Austin would never have drawn without holding a gun to Vince's head" for example, which IMO, is an erroneous way of thinking.
Well, yeah it was disputed. People have already disagreed with me. I'm just saying Bryan wasn't the SOLE contributor, Triple H made a great heel and letting Bryan have his moment was the best thing to do. I was just staying on the fence as opposed to attacking Bryan or defending him, yknow? Lol.

Surely the story could have been even better, if Orton wasn't booked a chump, and they weren't tryna derail the guy (Bryan) at first, as in reality as opposed to kayfabe.
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Re: After Rollins and Roman 2:16, can we finally admit that Bryan WAS a ratings draw?

The ratings started a real downward trend when Reigns won the Rumble, and slowly but surely people realized that Reigns was being protected, and Vince was going to follow through on him at some point, it was obvious as hell, and guys like Rollins or Cena were only there to hold out until they figured how to make Reigns champion.

Now, it's blatantly obvious what they're gonna do, and people start to realize that we're looking at another era of HeWinsLOL, with someone literally only a handful give a shit about, and now the bottom starts to drop out.
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Re: After Rollins and Roman 2:16, can we finally admit that Bryan WAS a ratings draw?

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People were complaining about them getting 2.8 and 2.9 with Bryan.

The truth is ratings should've been way worst but because Bryan was a big ratings draw, they didn't draw the 2.5, 2.4 they've been drawing the last couple of months and 2.16 they drew this week.

Bryan is like Bret Hart, a top draw but haters will talk shit about their drawing ability because they were in a bad era but the truth is they drew much more than any other top stars (Bret compared to Diesel, Michaels, Luger and Bryan compared to Reigns, Rollins , etc.).
If they were such a draw it wouldn't be a bad era.

I like Bryan but outside of wrestling fans he is not a draw.
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Re: After Rollins and Roman 2:16, can we finally admit that Bryan WAS a ratings draw?

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During Rollins' title reign, we were told that as soon as he was no longer the focus of the show, that ratings for Raw and general inteest in the product would increase significantly right away.

They had every opportunity to make this possible and blew it on the day they revealed the tournament bracket. Let alone the lackluster way it was carried out and the final result. I cosigned more interest being generated if it was booked correctly, but do you really think I expected a straight forward tournament full of jobbers to draw?


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Getting on Bryan's jock is funny, too.
By what, stating facts? He wasn't the draw, the show was just good. Put him on RAW in pointless tag matches with Neville every week and see what happens.



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Re: After Rollins and Roman 2:16, can we finally admit that Bryan WAS a ratings draw?

I'll say it again. In today's product no one is a single draw. it's a team effort. You need good teammates to succeed. Reigns won't do well with shitty teamates (Sheamus, Barrett, Rusev)

Bryan when he was on top had great teammates to work with (HHH, Orton, Batista)


It's a team effort
Without all these injuries the team would of looked like this

Reigns, Rollins, Bryan, Cena, Orton, Ambrose, Owens, Cesaro

Oh boy what a fuckin team that would of been had all these injuries didn't fuck it up
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They had every opportunity to make this possible and blew it on the day they revealed the tournament bracket. Let alone the lackluster way it was carried out and the final result. I cosigned more interest being generated if it was booked correctly, but do you really think I expected a straight forward tournament full of jobbers to draw?
Even if it was a good tournament, I think at best the ratings would have stayed in the same area they were at with Rollins (low to mid 3 millions). No one cares anymore. None of these guys are draws. Not even the part timers/legends are draws anymore. So no, even if with the tournament was booked right, I still don't think we would have seen some huge increase in a matter of a week or two.

I was never convinced things would be better, especially not right away. This is WWE Creative we're talking about here. Rollins didn't book himself. I always had a feeling once Rollins was no longer champ, WWE would just find a different way to fuck things up, and that's exactly what they've done and the ratings are even worse.



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Even if it was a good tournament, I think at best the ratings would have stayed in the same area they were at with Rollins (low to mid 3 millions). No one cares anymore. None of these guys are draws. Not even the part timers/legends are draws anymore. So no, even if with the tournament was booked right, I still don't think we would have seen some huge increase in a matter of a week or two.

I was never convinced things would be better, especially not right away. This is WWE Creative we're talking about here. Rollins didn't book himself. I always had a feeling once Rollins was no longer champ, WWE would just find a different way to fuck things up, and that's exactly what they've done and the ratings are even worse.
Which only proves my point that it's not the people themselves, but their portrayal on television. If they're booked as important, they get eyes on them. If they're booked as losers, afterthoughts, or forced to play roles that they're not good in, no one cares.


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WWE would just find a different way to fuck things up, and that's exactly what they've done and the ratings are even worse.
This is the main talking point about the whole ratings / draw question, for me.

Doesn't matter who WWE put in the prime position or who they bury. It's all done in such a lacklustre way, it's boring and is losing fans.

I guarantee you Vince and Triple H are sat there now thinking they have got people like you and me exactly where they want them, wanting Reigns to win something because of an "anyone but Sheamus" mentality and it just isn't that simple.

Right now my mentality is "anyone but WWE" based on how boring everything is.

The only significant talking point about WWE in the last 3 years is how astonishingly predictable everything is. I will admit, if their plan is to get people to talk about how much they hate the product, then Vince is a genius and I am wrong and a fool.



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